As Democrats Talk Single Payer, Private Medicare Advantage Soars

end to private insurance companies will never happen in the US, they wield way too much power in DC

Medicare for all may happen, but it will look a lot like Medicare/Medicare Disability looks now, but for everyone.
I agree, I was just pointing out the talking points that several female Libs are using as they run for President. They promise free everything. I guess they actually believe that money grows on trees. Goats grow on trees...but not money. Silly Libs. :laugh:
 
If Medicare For All does come about, there may not be much of anything "Medicare" for us to sell them that we do now.


I imagine that a medicare for all system would be means tested and those under 65 people would pay much more for part A and B then those over 65 to keep the medicare trust fund solvent.Medicare Advantage has really been a big success as far as keeping seniors healthy and containing cost so It seems like it it would also work for under 65.
 
Are people naive enough to believe that the insurance companies, a multitrillion-dollar industry, are just going to pull up anchor and allow the federal government to put the private healthcare industry out of business? No way! Even Obamacare wasn't a single-payer system, it was a co-op...and a failed one at that.
 
end to private insurance companies will never happen in the US,

Obamacare effectively eliminated all but a handful of carriers from the market and made health insurance unaffordable for all but the very poor and very rich. The government essentially replaced the insurance agent. Carriers all but eliminated commissions.

Other than that life is about the same as it was prior to 2014.

And folks, including me, said it would never happen.
 
Obamacare effectively eliminated all but a handful of carriers from the market and made health insurance unaffordable for all but the very poor and very rich. The government essentially replaced the insurance agent. Carriers all but eliminated commissions.

Other than that life is about the same as it was prior to 2014.

And folks, including me, said it would never happen.


You know that there was a lot of info online that said this would happen after the bill was public, Only not on most of the main news channels and the Obama admin had a fact-checking website that would dispute all this as misinfo and fake news.
 
You know that there was a lot of info online that said this would happen after the bill was public, Only not on most of the main news channels and the Obama admin had a fact-checking website that would dispute all this as misinfo and fake news.

Lame stream media drinking KoolAid
 
Sally Pipes: Sanders, Warren want ‘Medicare-for-all’ like Canada – But Canadian health care is awful

Sally Pipes: Sanders, Warren want ‘Medicare-for-all’ like Canada – But Canadian health care is awful

It’s true that everyone in Canada has health coverage. But that coverage doesn't always secure care. According to the Fraser Institute, a Canadian think tank, patients waited a median of nearly 20 weeks to receive specialist treatment after referral by a general practitioner in 2018. That's more than double the wait patients faced 25 years ago.

In Nova Scotia, patients faced a median total wait time of 34 weeks. More than 6 percent of the province's population was waiting for treatment in 2018.

Waiting for care is perhaps better than not being able to seek it at all. The hospital emergency department in Annapolis Royal in Nova Scotia recently announced that it would simply close on Tuesdays and Thursdays. There aren't enough doctors available to staff the facility.

Canadians can't escape waits like these unless they leave the country and pay out of pocket for health care abroad. Private health insurance is illegal in Canada.

Shortages of crucial medical personnel and equipment are common throughout Canada. The country has fewer than three doctors for every 1,000 residents. That puts it 26th among 28 countries with universal health coverage schemes. If current trends continue, the country will be short 60,000 full-time nurses in just three years.

In 2018, Canada had less than 16 CT scanners for every million people. The United States, by comparison, had nearly 45 per million.

These shortages, combined with long waits, can lead to incredible suffering.
 

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