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As the left goes farther left and the right goes farther right they come to find tha the earth is indeed round and rather than fall off their respective side they end up meeting at a point known as authoritarianism. My problem with Trump is not that he's a conservative, it is that he is an Authoritarian. My problem with the extreme elements of the Democratic party is not that they are liberal, it is that they too will arrive at authoritarianism if allowed to take their positions to their natural conclusions. Neither is healthy for the country.

Now I am confused, In what way is Trump so authoritarian?

Now If you said Bush was authoritarian, I might have agreed with you, especially with some of the laws passed after 911, (not sure how I feel about it, if they were right or not, I do feel uneasy about it )

But I don't see that with Trump

You say is the Dems keep up they will arrive at, However, they are there, We need to pass the bill to see what's in the bill, Is just a small sample, you see it every day.Especially the way the use the word racist to bully people in line have been doing that for 10 Years
 
My, my, sure touch a lot of nerves when you point out to people who claim to be capitalists that their religious leader was a socialist to the core.

What do you think Jesus was? A capitalist?
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Real problem with Amerika is that way too many people base their entire lives on sound bites.

Then defend their lack of enlightenment to the death.
 
My, my, sure touch a lot of nerves when you point out to people who claim to be capitalists that their religious leader was a socialist to the core.

What do you think Jesus was? A capitalist?
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Real problem with Amerika is that way too many people base their entire lives on sound bites.

Then defend their lack of enlightenment to the death.

Jesus was anti-political not left or right, Just out of it, made it clear give to Ceaser was it ceasers, My kingdom is not of this world, Let the dead bury the dead and much more


So don't bring Jesus into it, won't make your case
 
If I think Communism, Socialism or Capitalism is the best way, it seems I should learn all about it and do my best to live it in my business and personal life (in legal, non violent ways of course).

For Communism: I could use Fidel Castro example and start a revolution. Overthrow my own personal business and personal life. Distribute my own business and personal items. To each according to their need, and from each according to their means. Cuba has a lot of really nice old cars which are still operating on the streets of Havana. Lots of great fruit grows there I am told. Used to be a lot more of great cigar making over there.

Socialism: I could redistribute my own personal and business wealth, money, & property. Our neighbors in Canada may have a really nice example of Socialism for some people. Their neighborhood streets are really clean in Canada I am told. Their laws are more open to drugs and prostitution, I think I have heard.

If I think Capitalism is the best way to operate Government, for my personal and business life maybe I can sell more insurance, create more income, put no ceiling on my dreams and try my best to be number one. Dominating my field. Maybe help more others by putting myself first.

No offense, but I haven't seen any Cubans return back to Cuba, I don't think. I haven't seen or heard much about Canadians leaving US to go back to Canada Hospital for surgery or doctor visit. I haven't seen many wealthy individuals who said they will leave US, if so and so were elected ,or if such and such happens actually leave US for the other way...

If there is an optimal or better way. A better system than US,doesn't it stand to reason that the practitioners of those other systems are more educated and practiced in perfecting it than we?

And it stands to reason if there was a better way for the other systems to be, they would be more wealthy and powerful if they practiced the other system in the way you or I prove/think is the ideal way for their great system to be. They would show US lacking some greatness and could grow their economy more and could lead the world more powerfully.

Every way is always going to suffer the imperfection of humanity. Each will suffer the faults of human nature.

Maybe there is a lesser evil among the three. Does Bible say in Romans 13 submit to the government? And somewhere in Bible book of Acts an Apostle said he would do what God says not what the King or Emporer says when goes against God?

I am glad God and some people, have and will protect US.

My sympathies to people affected by violence recently.

( fwiw : This is a good site and I appreciate some good info from it.)
 
When the Dems realize they can not beat Trump with the current band of has-beens, communists, toadies, cutthroats, liers, globalists, crooks, Indians, and halfwits they will convince their dark horse candidate to take center stage. Michelle O....
 
Your characterization of Jesus widely misses the mark and undercuts your entire argument.

Jesus was a philosopher; a teacher. He consistently condemned the accumulation of wealth (capitalism) while teaching the virtues of equally distributing resources (socialism).

He was the dictionary definition of a socialist.

Jesus Was A Socialist | HuffPost

you're gonna need to back up your arguments with some actual bible quotes, not some anti-christian article from a socialist "news"paper...
 
Your characterization of Jesus widely misses the mark and undercuts your entire argument.

Jesus was a philosopher; a teacher. He consistently condemned the accumulation of wealth (capitalism) while teaching the virtues of equally distributing resources (socialism).

He was the dictionary definition of a socialist.

Jesus Was A Socialist | HuffPost


He never once wanted or tried to tell people who were not HIS followers, Or at least claimed to follow his father, To do anything, He Never protested Ceaser Or any Govt policy, He never advocated Govt reform(, You will not find this anywhere)

Just to be separate from the world, Obey the laws, But be uninvolved. Have no part in it, (this I am very bad at, But it is what Jesus was about the kingdom of his Father Not of this world)

The only reason he ever went after the Jewish leaders is that they were supposed to represent God, And Served themselves instead.

His thing about possessions was in direct connection to relying on God, It was about Faith Not socialism. Without faith, it's impossible to please God, This is what he taught, to his followers as the way to the father, Not as a way for a govt to run. Never did he show in any way this was to be a social movement for societies and govt, that were not His, Exactly the opposit
 
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