How IUL's use options

hunschuld

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Few on this sight seem to understand but everyone has a guess at how IUL's use options . I am posting part of a white paper explanation from the leading insurance producer group in the United States so everyone knows and understands and to stop the speculation.




Traditional IUL

The interest credits of traditional IUL products are based on the return of an underlying benchmark index, such as the S&P 500. For example, the S&P 500 1-year point-to-point index credits interest equal to 100% participation in the net change in the S&P 500 index from the first date to the last date of the benchmark period, subject to a cap and a floor.

To accomplish this S&P 500 index strategy, the insurer invests most of the account value in its general account and the remaining smaller portion in an options strategy, which is usually a combination of buying and selling index options to achieve the desired option payoff amount. The option cost is the net cost of the options strategy; that is, the sum of combined buying and selling of the index options. The option payoff provides the policy interest credits between the floor and the cap. In Example 1, the growth in the amount invested in the general account portfolio provides the account value floor, and the option payoff provides the upside growth, or net policy return.

Example 1
Imagine $100 in an S&P 500 index account. At the beginning of the benchmark period, the insurer allocates $96 to the general account and $4 to purchase the options strategy. Say the S&P 500 price change over the period is 6%. Then, at the end of the benchmark period, the interest credits to the policy are based on the returns of each component.

Traditional IUL Example

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IULs don't use options. The general investment account of the insurer does.

If IULs had options in the contract, they would be VARIABLE insurance contracts rather than FIXED indexed contracts.

Please be very specific in your terminology.

The option payoff provides the policy interest credits between the floor and the cap.

Assuming that the option is exercised while it is "in the money". Otherwise the option expires as worthless and it provides no interest back to the general investment account.


Note: the cap (or spread, etc.) and the option strike price do NOT have to be correlated together. Yes, insurers can adjust the cap... but for the insurance company to profit, the cap should be LOWER than the strike price of the options they are buying on their general investment account. They shouldn't be equal because the insurer needs to profit.


I don't think your "white paper" is going to be contributing anything helpful.
 
The insurance company does not price to make profit on the options they price to pass all gains to the IUL policy holders if they price correctly. profit on options is considered a mistake.
IUL makes money for the insurance company the same way whole life does. general account .cost of insurance and expenses.

Since you seem to be one of the people that doesn't understand how IUL's earn their return perhaps you should read more and snark less.
 
IULs don't use options. The general investment account of the insurer does.
DUH! That is exactly what the image above says. "General Account Investment"

You are supposed to be an expert on this forum and you think the insurance companies speculate with options? No, they fleece the policy holders with fees.
 
The only ones on here Ive seen speculating about how the carrier uses Options to fulfil IUL obligations are either consumers or green agents.

This concept has been explained many times on here on many different threads over many different years.

Just because the experienced agents choose not to repeat themselves over and over, doesnt mean anyone is confused.
 
The insurance company does not price to make profit on the options they price to pass all gains to the IUL policy holders if they price correctly. profit on options is considered a mistake.
IUL makes money for the insurance company the same way whole life does. general account .cost of insurance and expenses.

Since you seem to be one of the people that doesn't understand how IUL's earn their return perhaps you should read more and snark less.

Up to the stated cap. Insurance companies MUST make a profit! How else can the grow the reserve in order to pay claims??? They can't pay it ALL out! If anybody should know how to hedge their bets... its an insurance company.

IUL makes MORE money for the insurance company than WL. Why? Profits from IUL fees fund WL dividends.

Go take HS 323 from The American College and come back later. Your ignorance is showing.
 
DUH! That is exactly what the image above says. "General Account Investment"

You are supposed to be an expert on this forum and you think the insurance companies speculate with options? No, they fleece the policy holders with fees.

Read the very top of his post. He says that IULs use options. That's what I'm referring to.
 
IUL makes MORE money for the insurance company than WL. Why? Profits from IUL fees fund WL dividends.

That is a bit disingenuous. IUL fees fund WL dividends no more than the fees within a WL do... or the fees charged on DI.... or LTCI... or Annuities.... etc.

Performance of the GA funds WL Dividends. A lot goes into the GA performance, including policy premiums the carrier takes in... from ALL products...

IUL makes them more money the same way UL makes them more money... they can decrease rates and increase costs if needed to maintain a certain profit margin moving forward. With WL, they are stuck at the same cost for the life of the policy. WL also requires a payout from the GA regardless (assuming a major mutual that always pays dividends). In short, IUL carries more risk, therefore its more expensive. It also has more management & man hours involved for the carrier. Simple economics.
 
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That is a bit disingenuous. IUL fees fund WL dividends no more than the fees within a WL do... or the fees charged on DI.... or LTCI... or Annuities.... etc.

Per Doc Huffman (paraphrasing): "It is illegal to return surplus returns back to IUL policyholders. Therefore all the fees and additional returns go to fund WL dividends."

Granted, Ohio National did reduce their dividend scale...
 
Per Doc Huffman (paraphrasing): "It is illegal to return surplus returns back to IUL policyholders. Therefore all the fees and additional returns go to fund WL dividends."

Granted, Ohio National did reduce their dividend scale...

I dont care who said it. It's inaccurate.

All fees from all products help to fund the GA... INCLUDING WL FEES.

I never said surplus returns are returned back to IUL policies.

Not the first time a carrier mislead agents about how a product works just to further their own agenda.... especially a major mutual that is WL focused...
 
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