Husband and Wife 2 Man Group Texas PPO Health Insurance

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Well I know Texas allows them now......what other states allow them........

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Are you running your own business? Maybe you’re a small operation right now, but you plan to expand in the future. For right now, the payroll includes you and your spouse, who is also involved in the business.

This “mom and pop” business model isn’t all that uncommon, and neither are questions about group medical insurance. Many people ask whether or not they can sign up for group medical insurance as a “mom and pop” entity, before they hire additional employees.

So, what’s the answer? Can you buy a group policy now when it’s just you and your spouse? Or will you have to wait until you’ve hired at least one other employee?

The answer to this question can be yes. It can also be no. It depends, in part, on where you’re operating your business. Each state regulates the insurance policies that can be sold within it. These state-defined insurance laws also lay down what qualifies as a “group” for the purpose of purchasing insurance policies.

While the laws do vary, the general rule of thumb is that spouses do not meet the definition of “group.” Unless you have other employees, you and your spouse wouldn’t be considered a group and therefore wouldn’t be eligible to buy group insurance.

One thing that confuses many people is that, previously, some states did allow groups (often termed Husband and Wife Groups) to purchase group insurance. New York, for example, discontinued this practice in 2014.

As a result, you may have heard some of your colleagues talking about being able to do this. You may even be able to dig up old internet posts concerning eligibility of Husband and Wife Groups, even under the Affordable Care Act when it was first introduced.

In the majority of states, you’ll be required to have at least one W-2 employee working for your business before you’ll be eligible for a group insurance policy. Other restrictions include that the W-2 employee is not related to you. This means the employee must not be an owner or a business partner, or the spouse of an owner or business partner.

Once you meet these criteria, you can purchase group insurance.

There are, of course, exceptions to the rule. A handful of states offer exceptions to spouses meeting particular criteria. If you meet these criteria, you can then qualify for group insurance as a small group, even if your “group” consists only of you and your spouse. If you want to know about your state’s particular rules and whether or not you could qualify, you can talk to a carrier, broker, or workforce management consultant. They have deep knowledge of the rules and regulations in your state. Texas does offer Texas PPO Health Insurance Plans.


Why Would You Buy?
The most common reason a business owner wants to purchase group insurance is to get coverage for their own family, including their spouse and children. You can still provide coverage by purchasing individual policies. Group insurance policies often have preferential rates, but you may not qualify. In this case, individual insurance is the next best thing.

A few people are likely trying to be forward thinking by setting up a group insurance policy prior to hiring additional employees. After all, benefits can help you attract more qualified talent to work for your business! If you want to compete with the big guys, you’re going to need a benefits policy. If you could set up a group insurance policy plan before you needed to hire your first W-2 employee, you’d be at an advantage.

Unfortunately, this option isn’t available for most employers. The best idea is to shop around once you know you’ll be hiring a W-2 employee. You can mention you’ll be offering benefits during the hiring process.
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Husband and Wife PPO Health Insurance Texas
 
Well I know Texas allows them now......what other states allow them........
Don't know if it is state or just BCBS in TN but the broker that my daughter works with tried to take her from an individual family plan to a group plan with her and her husband on separate policies. BCBS said they couldn't do it. Had to have two individuals that did not live in the same household.
 
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Don't know if it is state or just BCBS in TN .
Well this is how it reads in Texas......
Frequently Asked Questions for Health Carriers
Guaranteed Issuance and Renewability for Mom and Pop Groups (expanded December 1, 2016)
Federal law does not consider a family-run business consisting of a husband and wife to be a small group health plan unless the business employs at least one common law employee who is neither spouse. Based on federal guidance, may a small group carrier refuse to issue new coverage or non-renew existing coverage for a small group that does not meet this federal definition?

No. Under Texas law, a small group carrier must issue coverage, consistent with TIC §1501.151, to a small employer with two or more employees, even if the employees are married to one another. A small group carrier may not non-renew coverage for an existing small group because the state and federal definitions of small group differ. In addition, TIC §1501.108 gives a covered employer the right to renew its group health coverage unless the employer fails to comply with the terms of the plan.

Federal law (42 US Code 300gg-91(e)(1)(B)) allows a state to elect to regulate coverage offered to very small groups as coverage in the small group market, and Texas considers a group of two eligible employees to be a small group, regardless of marital status. The Texas Insurance Code does not exclude spouses from the definition of “eligible employee” or exclude such employees in defining “small employer,” and consistent with this 28 TAC §26.7(d), prohibits a small group carrier from denying two individuals who are married the status of eligible employee solely on the basis that the two individuals are married. Commissioner’s Bulletin # B-0035-01 provides additional guidance regarding this requirement.
 
Well this is how it reads in Texas......
Frequently Asked Questions for Health Carriers
Guaranteed Issuance and Renewability for Mom and Pop Groups (expanded December 1, 2016)
Federal law does not consider a family-run business consisting of a husband and wife to be a small group health plan unless the business employs at least one common law employee who is neither spouse. Based on federal guidance, may a small group carrier refuse to issue new coverage or non-renew existing coverage for a small group that does not meet this federal definition?

No. Under Texas law, a small group carrier must issue coverage, consistent with TIC §1501.151, to a small employer with two or more employees, even if the employees are married to one another. A small group carrier may not non-renew coverage for an existing small group because the state and federal definitions of small group differ. In addition, TIC §1501.108 gives a covered employer the right to renew its group health coverage unless the employer fails to comply with the terms of the plan.

Federal law (42 US Code 300gg-91(e)(1)(B)) allows a state to elect to regulate coverage offered to very small groups as coverage in the small group market, and Texas considers a group of two eligible employees to be a small group, regardless of marital status. The Texas Insurance Code does not exclude spouses from the definition of “eligible employee” or exclude such employees in defining “small employer,” and consistent with this 28 TAC §26.7(d), prohibits a small group carrier from denying two individuals who are married the status of eligible employee solely on the basis that the two individuals are married. Commissioner’s Bulletin # B-0035-01 provides additional guidance regarding this requirement.
Appears that had her business been in Texas she would have qualified the for the group,saving her around $10K per year...
 
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Appears that had her business been in Texas she would have qualified the for the group,saving her around $10K per year...
I would Lic in every state that allowed husb/wife groups......I am writing the hell out of them here in tejas.......
 
They allow them in AZ. However, you must have one W2 employee who is not the owner nor the owner's spouse. Micro group commissions are very low here. Must write 4+ employees on a group plan to make a decent commission.
 
They allow them in AZ. However, you must have one W2 employee who is not the owner nor the owner's spouse. Micro group commissions are very low here. Must write 4+ employees on a group plan to make a decent commission.
Ann: If I understand his original question, that would not be a "husband and wife group".. I understand him to be talking about where insurance is only provide for the owner and a spouse employee...No one else to be insured. That is what they tried to do with my daughter.. She has some part time employees but the only full time people that would qualify for insurance are her and her husband.
 
...and maybe it is worth putting someone on payroll full time and paying for their insurance? The differences in prices in some areas of TN between individual and group rates are getting to where that might actually make sense in some cases.
 
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They allow them in AZ. However, you must have one W2 employee who is not the owner nor the owner's spouse. Micro group commissions are very low here. Must write 4+ employees on a group plan to make a decent commission.

Yea thats not what I am looking for....just husband and wife with no employees.....and BCBS Texas does not require proof of payroll ....and get 4.25% ....just wondering if Texas is the only state doing this....I can live with proof of payroll ....have turned in a check made out to spouse in the past......
 
Just to clarify (and I'm with Scott, these have exploded this year and I'm loving it), what BCBSTX requires is an LLC filed with the state, with both names listed as partners. That's it. There are no other requirements. And we are getting 4.25%.

Group HMO rates are less than the Individual numbers. And PPO is an option, too.

Now if I could just figure out what to do with my single people to get them off the trainwreck.....
 
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