Originally Posted by arnguy 
Honestagent, I found your post interesting but the overuse (if not misuse) of whom rattled my brain. According to The New Oxford American Dictionary, who forms the subjunctive case and so should be used in the subject position. the form whom, on the other hand forms the objective case, and so should be used in the object position in a sentence. In modern English the normal practice is to use who instead of whom.
Class dismissed.
You are indeed correct. In fact, it should also be worthy noting according to Analyzing English Grammar Third Edition by: Klammer, Shulz, and Volpe, approved by mulitfarious linguistic Ph.D practicing instructors and further, this book is the teaching of English grammar to teachers specializing in the rubric of writing solely at the post graduate level, while having the accredidation of the Columbia Journalism Review, additionally also speaking as a former Secodary Certified English Teacher, with past professional contractual teaching experience - prepositions take objects. So you know, prepositions, words like, 'to, from, and for,' to enumerate a few take the ojective case, which slots in the subjective case when answering the indirective objects of 'to whom,' or 'for whom' the object is performed.
Here's a quick snapshot. I hope this puts it all in perspective for you.
Traditional grammars (yes the plural here, grammars) somtimes tried to define indirect objects in terms of meaning as the 'recipient of the direct object,' or that 'to whom or for whom' the action is performed. Linguists today would say the indirect object is usually the 'recipient' or 'beneiciary,' something I feel we all to can relate. Okay, so what does this mean?
It may help you to remember to ask 'what' to identify the direct object and 'to whom' or 'for whom' for the indirect object. These 2 techniques (given to you today at no cost, btw) will help determine the slot for usage of subjective or objective class. So let's use a simple example to answer the question of 'what,' in this case.
Illustrated example: What did Maria give George? (direct object would be gift) Now, to test this, you would say, To whom did Maria give a gift? The indirect object is: George of course!
Now, I ask, as a teacher, to take this concept and apply this technique to my preceding post to that you referred. This should help you. And if it does not, then:
I can slice and dice this in a number of ways. If you would like more information, my hourly fee is $300.00 and as extra benefit for you, I will personally provide you with an added value of 10% off on our second consultation. I do this for eager learners!
Any other questions, please pm me as this thread should be allocated strictly to the zero premium concept and product.
I thank you kindly.
H.A.
Please limit this to insurance related items only. Leave personal soap boxes off this board. Especially grammar lessons. I feel like I just got in the middle of rush hour road rage. Please?
Honestagent, I found your post interesting but the overuse (if not misuse) of whom rattled my brain. According to The New Oxford American Dictionary, who forms the subjunctive case and so should be used in the subject position. the form whom, on the other hand forms the objective case, and so should be used in the object position in a sentence. In modern English the normal practice is to use who instead of whom.
Class dismissed.
You are indeed correct. In fact, it should also be worthy noting according to Analyzing English Grammar Third Edition by: Klammer, Shulz, and Volpe, approved by mulitfarious linguistic Ph.D practicing instructors and further, this book is the teaching of English grammar to teachers specializing in the rubric of writing solely at the post graduate level, while having the accredidation of the Columbia Journalism Review, additionally also speaking as a former Secodary Certified English Teacher, with past professional contractual teaching experience - prepositions take objects. So you know, prepositions, words like, 'to, from, and for,' to enumerate a few take the ojective case, which slots in the subjective case when answering the indirective objects of 'to whom,' or 'for whom' the object is performed.
Here's a quick snapshot. I hope this puts it all in perspective for you.
Traditional grammars (yes the plural here, grammars) somtimes tried to define indirect objects in terms of meaning as the 'recipient of the direct object,' or that 'to whom or for whom' the action is performed. Linguists today would say the indirect object is usually the 'recipient' or 'beneiciary,' something I feel we all to can relate. Okay, so what does this mean?
It may help you to remember to ask 'what' to identify the direct object and 'to whom' or 'for whom' for the indirect object. These 2 techniques (given to you today at no cost, btw) will help determine the slot for usage of subjective or objective class. So let's use a simple example to answer the question of 'what,' in this case.
Illustrated example: What did Maria give George? (direct object would be gift) Now, to test this, you would say, To whom did Maria give a gift? The indirect object is: George of course!
Now, I ask, as a teacher, to take this concept and apply this technique to my preceding post to that you referred. This should help you. And if it does not, then:
I can slice and dice this in a number of ways. If you would like more information, my hourly fee is $300.00 and as extra benefit for you, I will personally provide you with an added value of 10% off on our second consultation. I do this for eager learners!
Any other questions, please pm me as this thread should be allocated strictly to the zero premium concept and product.
I thank you kindly.
H.A.
Please limit this to insurance related items only. Leave personal soap boxes off this board. Especially grammar lessons. I feel like I just got in the middle of rush hour road rage. Please?
