Proof Of Mailing???????

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  1. Glen Shelton
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    I guess we would need to find a new forum jester if he was banned...
     
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    Now that's funny right there LOL, although I do believe sirherbie does put up decent numbers.

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    Oh yea. Its called the "ghost writer" program cause that is all it will attract....Ghost app Writers LOL:D

    But the commish is 175%, so they will kill it cause 175% of $0 is still a big fat zero, but hey, that's net!!:D
     
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    My direct mail leads are unlimited. What about yours?:)
     
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    Lists are not leads. Lists are not leads.
     
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    PCB is exactly right. I will resort to projectile vomiting the next time I hear that a list of names equates to leads. :1arghh:
     
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    Getting back to the subject of proof of mailing....

    It was the lack of proof that was my first clue that MSPM was cheating me. I was able to see that they held my mail for at least a week without mailing.

    Then when they stole my proprietary mailing piece I was sure of their "honesty."

    Rick
     
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    It's tame here tonight, so let me get behind the curtain before I say it..."a targeted data list equates to leads".:twitchy:

    Seriously(I know I'm in the minority), when I order a targeted data list and I put the info on a card to cold door knock that person, I consider that to be a lead. A lead that's a notch above going door to door.

    I know that it'll be said that at least with DM, TM or Avatar leads they did something to show interest. But there're serial mailers/responders in that mix and I don't think those people have shown any more interest than the person I'm going to cold door knock.

    I agree that DM, TM and Avatar leads are still a much stronger lead(and they cost much more). To me a lead is a name of someone to talk to...who is a good prospect for what I'm selling.

    There's no doubt that DM, TM and Avatars are more efficient, and as I get older, I'm leaning towards and buying more of the "traditional" leads.:)
     
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    Nahhhh. Those are lists. And I still don't even agree that a door knocker needs a list at all. Just knock any of them that looks to home. A list will just slow you down.
     
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    From the list comes leads. Whether it's cold door knocking or telemarketing to set appointments off the list. You create your own leads. Cold door knocking gives you a place to go.

    I'm talking about working Med Supps, so I don't think the list slows you down...I'm looking for old people. If you're door knocking for life insurance, I agree that the list would slow you down, because everybody's a prospect.
     
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    Yes for Med Sups a list would be better.
     
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