Socialism will Destroy our Business

[vic120]

If the parents can't afford premiums, should their kids also suffer?

Not even going to continue to argue with you after this you have baloney points

There is Medicaid, In the 2 states I lived in there have always been programs for kids besides Medicaid as well there is coll insurance and young p[oeples insurance has always been cheap when bought privately too

 

[goillini52]

If the parents can't afford premiums, should their kids also suffer?

I believe that's what Medicaid is for.

 

[vic120]

Todd, you are 100% wrong. I can't believe you feel this way.

Health care, food, water, education, a place to live, etc. are all basic human rights that everyone should receive.

The essentials of life are a basic human right.

The whole point of living in society together it to make life easier for all.

I can't believe that you feel that health care is not a basic human right.

That's like saying food shouldn't be a basic human right and if you can't pay for food then you should starve to death.

I'm not going to say anything else because your position is just indefensible and simply unacceptable.

No because there is Medicaid if one is truly that bad off,

I know many that went to hosp without insurance and made payment plans and such

No one is deprived in this country as in many other countries, Even some with universal healthcare can be worse than no healthcare here. I am not talking about England although there are many problems with that system too

Many of the thing you mentioned people dont have to do without in this country most of the time as they do in some other countries

But because we provide it Does not make it a human right

Honestly, the only true human right is AIR

Even Food and drink is not always available. In this world, anything that has to be provided is not a right

Even Freedom is not a Human right. It had to be won and fought for many died for it, Its, not a Human right And can be taken away if we are not careful

 

[goillini52]

No because there is Medicaid if one is truly that bad off,

I know many that went to hosp without insurance and made payment plans and such

No one is deprived in this country as in many other countries, Even some with universal healthcare can be worse than no healthcare here. I am not talking about England although there are many problems with that system too

Many of the thing you mentioned people dont have to do without in this country most of the time as they do in some other countries

But because we provide it Does not make it a human right

Honestly the only true human right is AIR Even

Food and drink is not always available in this world anything that has to be provided is not a right

Even Freedom is not a Human right. It had to be won and fought for many died for it, Its not a Human right And get be taken away if we are not careful

Wish I could give this post more than one Like Vic.

 

[ExProgrammer]

I don't come around much anymore but when did the insurance forums become a political forum. Hell, this sounds like USMB.

To OP Medicare for All will never happen at least in mine and most on this board lifetime.

The USMB is as bad as it is here? That's awful!!!

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[T Sparks]

Todd, you are 100% wrong. I can't believe you feel this way.

Health care, food, water, education, a place to live, etc. are all basic human rights that everyone should receive.

Receive (To be given, presented with, or paid)......REALLY, why not add in Cell phones, Cable TV, and a Family pass to Disney World each year. Look, I have never ever been given a dime, I have not a college education, I went to work selling Medicare Supplements when I was 19yrs old, I struggled through the growing pains. This year will be 33yrs. My medical cost with premiums and out of pocket cost exceeded 25G last yr.for me and my spouse.I am thankful that I worked hard and saved so I can pay for this. I am thrilled
to death that I have accomplished this on my own. Am I bragging
absolutely NOT. I thank God every day for what I have and that I live in a FREE Country. I believe that when a society works for what they have/and or need they thrive to even do better. BTW.. I believe Todd KING is 100% correct.

 

[vic120]

The essentials of life are a human right.

And if society is to exist in an organized way (as is ours), then it's the responsibility of the society to be structured in such a way as to ensure everyone has the essentials of life.

If not, there is no point to there being a society.

Just because one or more basic human rights is not given, denied, taken away, etc. doesn't mean that right is not a human right.

It's inconceivable that anyone would feel that food, water, health care, shelter, etc. are not basic human rights that an organized society should ensure to all.

I'm not sure how to respond to a person who feels this way.

It's almost like someone saying 2 + 2 = 5. Not sure how to respond to how wrong that is.

Im sorry I am in the wrong universe

So in this universe there hasn't been a society that has survived without these basic human rights provided that you mentioned

Maybe you can come over here and explain this to all those suffering in my universe In many countries man you need to take a look at Nkoria here, Russia, Parts of China, India, Greece, and many many others

These countries should not exist

 

[suranceman]

The essentials of life are a human right.

And if society is to exist in an organized way (as is ours), then it's the responsibility of the society to be structured in such a way as to ensure everyone has the essentials of life.

If not, there is no point to there being a society.

Just because one or more basic human rights is not given, denied, taken away, etc. doesn't mean that right is not a human right.

It's inconceivable that anyone would feel that food, water, health care, shelter, etc. are not basic human rights that an organized society should ensure to all.

I'm not sure how to respond to a person who feels this way.

It's almost like someone saying 2 + 2 = 5. Not sure how to respond to how wrong that is.

Your reject leftist formula of [insert benefit x human right] won't work among us normal functioning people.

In this country, we are given the opportunity to be free. That could end up good or end up bad, but it's our choice. America is not the land of [all your needs are taken care of by uncle sam]. It's the land of freedom.

Move to Canada or some other *** place if you don't like it.

 

[toolbelt]

Move to Canada or some other *** place if you don't like it.

Ever compare deficit per capita and wonder what all that extra debt is being spent? Mind you, Canada doesn't have the added burden of attending to multiple shootings per hour.