Symmetry Financial Group

Discussion in 'Life Insurance Forum' started by TK1217, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. Corporate Death
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    Yeah, I do.

    I switched to life/annuity when the health insurance bubble blew up. Had been rolling along doing *some* production, trying to find my rythym and a niche. Actually took on a couple little IT gigs and computer repair gigs to support it. Got a call from Casey, figured "what the hey", contracted with three of their carriers (UHL, AmAm, and ING), figured I'd sell their stuff and my stuff. Kept selling my stuff and just "marinated" on the SFG stuff.

    A few weeks ago, I bought a bunch of their leads and made appointments based on their "system". Did very well. First time doing Mortgage Protection. No lies, no bull, just wrote apps and collected checks. I'm thinking I might start just doing that full time.

    Did some reading up on Casey Watkins, Brandon Ellison and Lynn Watkins. It seems they were pretty p-o'd with NAA and left a couple years ago. Found info about a lawsuit against NAA from them on STIbrokers website. I'm betting that they do not go the way of NAA anytime in the near future.

    That said, I'm not committing to only buying their leads, I'm looking for referrals and any online EXCLUSIVE mp leads I can get.

    So far, so good. Nothing stinks here yet.

    BTW, I didn't pay for anything when contracting with SFG. Only paid for leads generated by one of the partners (Asurea - Brian Pope). Met Brian last weekend, seems like a stand up guy.
     
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  2. BeenAround
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    Lets face it. If you were at NAA in the hayday prior to AA buying out the 2 insurance guys it was great. Their system is fine. It was the cost to be involved that got out of hand and made it a bad deal.

    If you worked both era's with NAA or have worked with SFG you would realize that the whole recruiting, building, meetings conference calls are good. But you still have to be profitable. So overpaying to pad AA's amway setup with internal consumption is where the problem lies.
     
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    yeah, i went to recruiting session recently... here's my review:

    1) anytime you have just as many current employees as recruits in an 'overview' meeting to 'tesitfy', watch out. if you cant sell it without support from the peanut gallery, then its bs.

    2) the head recruiter, out of florida i believe, was definitely familiar with the term columbian marching powder. asked applicants questions about their work history just to insult them with it later during the scatterbrain presentation. talked for an hour and a half about rich vs. broke and did not cover the products at all. i noted to myself that sure, it is advised not to talk about products right up front, but that is when you are dealing with a customer. the potential agent you are recruiting, many of whom have previous experience in the industry will not appreciate being sold on the job opportunity like a customer who is uninformed about the sales process. then, expecting us to have enough -con-fidence in his sell, asked the group to drive to a city 4 hours away the next morning for the next phase of the 'interview process' - on spec without promise of hire let alone compensation. they do this because they only want 'the right people' and want to repel 'the wrong people'. that's a cult move, i don't care who you promise i'll meet in Timbucktwo.

    Some companies bring you in and you know it may have some MLM aspects involved, and some make you feel like you are on the bottom rung of a pyramid scheme. this guy reminded me of the latter. btw my man, that ben afleck boiler room stuff only plays in the movies. that's why they are MOVIES, muchacho.

    ive lurked here for a while but this experience finally got me to register. thanks!
     
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    Ive just been contacted by the Walker Group. Im concerned if I will have to pay for leads. I did express that and they gave me a pre-interview anyway. The pre-interview sounded good to me, but I am brandee dandy new to the business and I need to learn whos good and who's not so good, any help is appreciated :yes:
     
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    They are buying Aviva's US life operations.
     
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    Just curious, where did you hear that?
     
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    I thought SYMETRA was buying that from Aviva.....(or Apollo?)
     
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    Understand that good leads will cost money. There is a great return on income in that expense though. I have worked with free leads too many times and really got nowhere with them. If you want a good sales commission only gig, find one with good leads. Start out on some of their older leads then get a good flow of newer leads each week as you start to get the sales going.
     
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    Where are your favorite sources of leads?
     
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