What do you do with a declined health application?

Apr 23, 2007

  1. Jeff Spainhour
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    After years of referring health declines to the state high risk pool. I finally found a company that is hunting the high risk market in individual health. Tom has a new product that I would like to recommend to all agents.

    Underwriting just cleared my first application and I should be pulling 50% commision! Not bad on a $300.00 per month premium.

    Does anyone have any insight into this type of product?
     
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  2. Crabcake Johnny
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    It's United American pitching Flex Guard.
     
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    your client is better off in the risk pool.......and I can not let you spam us with a phone #........but you are more than welcome to tell us why this is better than the Risk pool.....
     
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    C'mon Jeff....Did you think we wouldn't see through that one?

    Indiana has pretty good open enrollment rates. Ohio's are not quite as good.
     
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    Well for what it's worth I just talked to Tom for about 30 minutes. Fantastic guy and long-time insurance vet for Fortis and Humana. First of all, all states don't have risk pools. The states that do like MD still require people to qualify and I've personal said "sorry" to countless people who didn't qualify for the MD risk pool. I'm willing to at least see this offering.
     
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    so is it U.A.....and I can not seem to find Tom as a Lic. agent in KY........


    never mind I found him....and have an idea of the Co.......

    Agent Licensing - Search Details as of 04/23/2007

    Name: Cocagne, Thomas Leo
    DOI Number: 388372


    License - Line of Authority Information

    StatusResidencyClassLine of AuthorityActive DateInactive DateAppointmentsNext Compliance DateActiveResidentAgent Life 04/02/1987 12/31/2007 ActiveResidentAgent Health 04/02/1987 12/31/2007 ActiveResidentAgent Variable Life and Variable Annuities 03/30/2001 No Appointments 12/31/2007 *If a status is Pending, Pending Replacement,or the record displays Affidavit on File, click on them for more details.No License Renewal Information on File
    NOTE: Licensee may renew up to 6 months prior to Next Compliance Date. Licensees subject to CE must complete CE requirements before Next Compliance Date in order to successfully complete the License Renewal Process.
    Address Information

    TypeAddress ResidenceNot Public Information
    Business / Home Office2228 Amsterdam Rd
    Ft Mitchell, KY 41017

    Internet Information

    TypeAddressEmail[email protected]
     
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  7. Crabcake Johnny
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    Don't know anything about it. I can tell you one case I had; single male sole proprietor uninsurable in MD. Does not have an eligible condition for the risk pool and he's not HIPAA eligible. Shutting down his business and working for a company was not an option for him. I would have offered him anything. I had nothing to offer.
     
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    so I do believe we have discussed imerica before.,......
     
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    He was Imerica's Veep - now he's a UA regional director. He was with Humana for a few years and Fortis.
     
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    I have sent Two people to U.A in the last month......it was that or the RP......first one got stuck on a base plan with a $7,500 cap per hosp. stay for $237.00.....I sent this goofball to set her up on the $100,000 flex guard....the U.A. assholes will not give rates on the phone....call her back and asked why not do as I asked and said she could not afford the $400 + a month....btw the Risk pool on a 5 thou was $377.......the other one got approved for a $75,000 FG for $900+ for him and his wife(they are both fried).,......risk pool $1,100...so both are cxl'n and for the latter setting up a 2 man group.....
     
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