Oklahoma?

Thanks for this update, BlueDiamond. I knew that over the past 2 years several states have challenged the Subsidy Eligibility criteria, but this is the first one gaining any traction. I suppose this will have to eventually ascend to the Supreme Court to have any national impact?

Oh..and by the way, BlueDiamond. Would you mind making the titles of the threads you create more descriptive of the content therein? The title "Oklahoma?" didn't give any indication of what would be found by accessing the thread. Thanks in advance, BD.
-allen
 
Isn't this the wrong battle to fight? since the law is staying, why wouldn't they want people to get subsidies?
 
Isn't this the wrong battle to fight? since the law is staying, why wouldn't they want people to get subsidies?

Right you are, BenWrigh. Without subsidies, people wouldn't be able to afford the huge premium increases that are right around the corner. You have to remember however that these legal challenges to the subsidies began 2 years ago, when it wasn't clear if ObamaCare was a "sure thing" like it is now.
 
Right you are, BenWrigh. Without subsidies, people wouldn't be able to afford the huge premium increases that are right around the corner. You have to remember however that these legal challenges to the subsidies began 2 years ago, when it wasn't clear if ObamaCare was a "sure thing" like it is now.

True. that makes sense. keeping he suit going at this point does not. At this point it must surely be a political battle as this would actually cause great financial harm to many.

I'm starting to think my forum addiction here may be a bad thing. I read one post and get mad at one group of politicians, the next post it's the other way around as the other side is making a difficult Issue even worse...
 
No tax credits = our country doesn't go BK as quickly
No tax credits = employers won't pay 3k penalty if EE goes exchange
No tax credits = not affordable, no penalty to individuals
 
No tax credits = our country doesn't go BK as quickly
No tax credits = employers won't pay 3k penalty if EE goes exchange
No tax credits = not affordable, no penalty to individuals

RIGHT YAgents. But since the gov't is going to continue to tax like mad and spend the money like a new powerball winner, shouldn't they redistribute it here in America instead of potentially giving that trillion dollars to other countries? That's how I view the subsidy payments.

The insurance carriers receiving these huge subsidies had better not cut our commissions!

-ac
 
True YA it cost's way too much money, but why try and deny the citizens in the state's who do not have an exchange the same subsidy as the states that have an exchange, if Oklahoma wants to opt out completely I don't really care, but don't speak for the other states and their citizens who are un insurable or can qualify for a subsidy. I am also sure there are many in Ok that could use a little help right now.


Ok Allen my next title will me much longer lol.
 
It's not them "trying to deny citizens" a subsidy, it's them trying to force the government to follow the letter of the law. We all know, they have no problem doing so when it benefits them.


Specifically:

To qualify for the subsidies, these individuals must be enrolled "through an Exchange established by the State under [section] 1311". Key word there is "state".

In FFE states, where the exchange is established by the "government", it's contended that subsidies are not allowed. This was brought up MANY times in MANY states by MANY people, Oklahoma is the one where it gained traction.
 
It's not them "trying to deny citizens" a subsidy, it's them trying to force the government to follow the letter of the law.

Maybe when all of this was just starting they had more logical reasons, but at this point, its hard for me to believe that their intentions are just make sure the gov follows the rules.
 
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