Plan B - Going Negative

[Winter_123]

As discussed, hacks like Obama and Pelosi are playing a very, very dangerous game. They have gotten as far as they have with the reform thing by getting quasi-buy-in from pharms and the carriers. Now, they have decided that the way to nail down the reform bill is a full frontal assault on drug companies and insurance carriers. High risk game, very high risk.


Plan B for business groups: Going negative - Chris Frates - POLITICO.com

 

[Mr. Bill]

Well of course! Why not call corporations and profits evil, and point out the folly of a capitalistic society.

The Cloward-Piven strategy is working!!!!

 

[Newby]

It's funny how President Obama himself said in a speech yesterday that AARP has endorsed the plan and AARP anounced the day before that they DO NOT endorse THIS plan. They only endorse the general idea of health reform (Duh??)

And why do people still consider AARP's endorsement of anything credible anyway? Haven't they crapped on their reputation enough times already? Is their endorsement REALLY any better than an endorsment from Humana or Anthem?

 

[Mr. Bill]

"Planting major falsehoods has been a favorite Alinsky strategy from the start. His acolyte, Barack Obama, learned his Industrial Areas Foundation lessons on deceiving for power while on a side trip during his Harvard years, then taught the Alinsky power tactics at the University of Chicago. "

American Thinker: Obama's Nazi Straw man: An Old Alinsky Trick

 

[somarco]

Time to turn the tables.

Slick Willie took the White House on 4 simple words. "It's the economy, stupid".

Health care inflation is 6.9% (2008).

The national debt increased by 23% over the last 12 months.

Unemployment increased by 63%.

Where is the REAL crisis?

Health care reform is just a ruse for creating another vote buying entitlement program and designed to take the attention away from the piss poor job he has done on more pressing matters . . . like the economy.

Most of the arguments making YouTube clips about Granny death squads just plays into their hands. Someone needs to take them to task on the economy and force them to address the real crisis instead of this fabricated one.

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

Interesting and ironic that the whacked out right and whacked out left actually do more damage to their cause.

We have the whacked out right now talking about death panels which harms the conservative point of view and inhibits change.

Then we have the whacked out left, people like Al who think all conservatives are cross-burning Nazi's.

 

[Winter_123]

I don't know. I am somewhat of a moderate on this death panel thing. On one hand, I agree that the right is talking some scary stuff. On the other hand, there is in fact at least some smoke where people are alleging fire. Even if there is no fire, just what does some of that stuff that Ram Emanual's brother and the language of the bills refer to? Rationing of care and shutting down care (or at least excessive care) for the elderly is very much embodied in the bill and those who support it. So......I would not let the left characterize anyone as a right wing nutcase who wants to understand that better. It is not our fault nor is it the fault of the elderly that no one can figure out what the bill is saying. Obama tried to do a rush job and he is reluctant to communicate what he truly means either because he is making it up as we go or along or else he knows that the more details he shares, the less people like it. If people are mad and confused about that, that is his problem, not mine. If he is the Great Communicator, then fix it, or not.

I have never seen any public hearings on the proposed bills and I guess Obama was tyring to ram it through without any. So if some people are wildly misinterpretting some things, too frigging bad. Try communicating with the public and holding public hearings in a formal manner, rather than your town hall feel-good (or bad?) circuses.

 

[Rivers1]

Health care reform is just a ruse for creating another vote buying entitlement program and designed to take the attention away from the piss poor job he has done on more pressing matters . . . like the economy.

You're right on here.

Big Gov likes to confuse, suppress, & sidetrack the people. It's a control mechanism of action. It's been used for centuries around the world and has hit American soil.