7 payers exiting Medicare Advantage markets in 2025

[DonP]

Where did I say benefits in 2025 are higher than in 2024? Where did I say that full benefits have been announced.
Subsidies are not benefits Don.

What subsidies are you speaking of ? Medicare basically gave flat rate increase to mapd carriers which with medical inflation is like a 3-5% decrease . Yes it seemed they've tried to give more subsidies for part D at the last min . But this has no bearing on mapd . The bottom line carriers should have slashed benefits 90% on plans and made medical even better . Butv there's no sizzle in that be able to roll plans from carrier to carrier . My impression from carriers is they don't care about adding members. It's all about profitability

 

[Chazm]

What subsidies are you speaking of ? Medicare basically gave flat rate increase to mapd carriers which with medical inflation is like a 3-5% decrease . Yes it seemed they've tried to give more subsidies for part D at the last min . But this has no bearing on mapd . The bottom line carriers should have slashed benefits 90% on plans and made medical even better . Butv there's no sizzle in that be able to roll plans from carrier to carrier . My impression from carriers is they don't care about adding members. It's all about profitability

Subsidies went up for MAPD. Yes or no?

 

[DonP]

Subsidies went up for MAPD. Yes or no?

No when you back out some metrics according to what i read its really a decrease.

 

[Chazm]

No when you back out some metrics according to what i read its really a decrease.

Don. You just like to argue. Mercury suggested that subsidies are drying up. And that when they end, the party is over. I said subsidies have actually increased for 2025. Per usual.

You chime with, well with the cost of inflation, it's technically a decrease. That doesn't change the fact the subsidies increased. Just chill man

 

[DonP]

Don. You just like to argue. Mercury suggested that subsidies are drying up. And that when they end, the party is over. I said subsidies have actually increased for 2025. Per usual.

You chime with, well with the cost of inflation, it's technically a decrease. That doesn't change the fact the subsidies increased. Just chill man

Here's the bottom line Chazm. I'll write 200-300 mapd aep . Every single person that has a mapd nationwide will be renewing their coverage . Who gets that business is the only thing up for discussion . The no subsidies increase is not what hit carriers for 2025. It's the unexpected big big increase in claims . Few expected such a sharp rise

 

[Chazm]

Here's the bottom line Chazm. I'll write 200-300 mapd aep . Every single person that has a mapd nationwide will be renewing their coverage . Who gets that business is the only thing up for discussion . The no subsidies increase is not what hit carriers for 2025. It's the unexpected big big increase in claims . Few expected such a sharp rise

What does any of this have to do with what I was discussing with mercury? None. No one is talking about better or worse benefits. Only you.

 

[axeman462]

Govt funded program. Goid while it lasts
Nuff said

nothing is more permanent than a government funded program.

 

[vic120]

nothing is more permanent than a government funded program.

Permanent as in it does not go away, . this is correct

However the things about Govt programs are the rules, definitions, benefits, funding, to who the funding goes to, and qualifications are always changing

 

[gregj]

lol

another thread that serves to confirm my impression that insurance drudges may be the least-well-informed tribe in the USA

 

[billyb]

The government can take away your business. Just ask any of us that were around when Tricare For Life was passed.