My original post wasn't directed towards you.I just made a response based on the wording in your original post.
If FIAs have other ways to provide lifetime income besides a rider I apologize because I don't have knowledge of those products.
I do know the Income Rider FIAs I have purchased are different than the structured payment stream products offered by DCF. And the purchase customizations offered by DCF really allow a person to place both types of products in their retirement funds base obtaining the maximum benefit from each. This was discussed in the podcast.
SPIAs and DIAs are different than FIAs with income riders but I didn't (at the time) understand the reason for the original post. Hence my inclusion of that product.
I don't really care what was discussed in some podcast because I know this market VERY well and I am an expert in the distribution of assets. I have specialized in this market for over 20 years.
I wish you luck in whatever you end up doing.