Can some one aware me on Primerica

Let me guess? They have a product so they can't be a pyramid scheme??? Herbalife....Vemma.....Advocare....etc all had products. The FTC's website has a list of red flags to watch for under their Multi-Level Marketing tab. I defer to their judgement, which completely differs from yours. Making money from recruiting is illegal. Making money from anything a recruit buys is legal. Do you see any distinction?

Sorry, but @DHK is right.

You're conflating a lot of things:

(1) The legal definition of a pyramid scheme, which is very narrowly defined. Primerica doesn't meet this definition and so it is operating legally. I mean, freakin' Amway also doesn't meet this definition.

(2) The convetional, conversational definition of a pyramid scheme. I think Amway is a pyramid scheme but that doesn't mean anything legally. The term "pyramid scheme" is sometimes even used as a synonym for "scam" which is inaccurate. A pyramid scheme has a specific meaning, whereas there are lots of bad MLMs that are not pyramid schemes. For example, Senior Life is a bad MLM, but it's not a pyramid scheme.

(3) The FTC's consumer advice. Lawyers don't go into court and say "there's a red flag listed on the FTC's web site..." The FTC will advise you to not join various MLMs even if they are operating legally..

I think your point is that since "the number of policies issued closely mirrors the count of people recruited" it must be a pyramid scheme since it sounds like the only sales are internal.

However, having known a few Primerica drones, what I've observed is:

(1) They do train their reps (however ineffectually) to go out and sell policies. The "buy term and invest the difference" sales pitch is closely associated with Primerica.

(2) The ones who've approached me have been trying to sell policies, not recruit me. My wife bought a Primerica policy 20 years ago and was never contacted about becoming a rep.

(3) Even in good agencies, isn't the failure rate like 95%?

Disclaimer: I haven't watched the "infiltration" video above or really looked at Primerica at all in several years, so apologies if something has changed.

I think it's more accurate to say that because Primerica's product is crappy, often agents are only able to sell to themselves and their own circle of friends/family and fall short of the promised dream...which isn't that different than the typical "Project 200" many agencies do.

That's different than the intent of a true pyramid scheme.

Does Primerica suck? Oh yeah. Should you join Primerica? No.
 
Sure sounds like a pyramid scheme to me. Let's not forget, child labor used to be legal. That didn't make it justifiable. Even the agents who responded on the first page opened this thread by saying "MLM", "Beware". Primerica and their ilk are the scum of the earth, and given that you have the designations you do, you should feel that way even more so. These people are giving your profession a bad name. One brush with Primerica could turn an entire family away from life insurance and financial planners for life

The laws have changed for MLM's they can no longer brag about large incomes without proof of such. Something the IMO's still do when recruiting people to their brokerage firm or agency. IMO's have become the new "dream builders" recruiting anyone with a pulse and telling people they will make 100k their first year.
 
Sorry, but @DHK is right.

You're conflating a lot of things:

(1) The legal definition of a pyramid scheme, which is very narrowly defined. Primerica doesn't meet this definition and so it is operating legally. I mean, freakin' Amway also doesn't meet this definition.

(2) The convetional, conversational definition of a pyramid scheme. I think Amway is a pyramid scheme but that doesn't mean anything legally. The term "pyramid scheme" is sometimes even used as a synonym for "scam" which is inaccurate. A pyramid scheme has a specific meaning, whereas there are lots of bad MLMs that are not pyramid schemes. For example, Senior Life is a bad MLM, but it's not a pyramid scheme.

(3) The FTC's consumer advice. Lawyers don't go into court and say "there's a red flag listed on the FTC's web site..." The FTC will advise you to not join various MLMs even if they are operating legally..

Thank you.

The next thing toolbelt will assert is that a Pyramid Scheme is the same as a Ponzi Scheme. One is recruiting people who pay money... and the other is "investing" money to pay returns to initial investors.

Two very different schemes. Both highly illegal.

He'll probably say they're the same.
 
The video conflates the laws as well and just labels everything as symptoms of a pyramid scheme.

You're really caught up in what's legal and the semantics of what a pyramid scheme is. When it comes to a business model like Primerica, it's apparent to me that it causes much more harm than good in the world. They may pay their death benefits, but they leave a trail of carnage in their wake.

I'm sure the MLM industry has lobbied plenty to hold their ground legally. If that's the only qualifier to halt from criticizing a company, then we truly owe Oceangate an apology lol
 

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