Darren Sugiyama Script

[formercoldcaller80]

You have an interesting perspective.

I'm helping every potential reader on this forum by warning them about Darren's SCAM by taking the time to make this post.

Telling me that i'm getting revenge by warning other people, is the same as calling it revenge if I were to warn you not to park your car under a certain tree b/c there's a bird's nest that left dropping on my car.

Or calling it revenge if I were to pick up dog poop at the dog park even though it was left by someone else. I don't hold a grudge against poop. I'm not trying to get revenge on it. I just care enough about my dog and my surroundings to do something about it so that no one else steps in the dog dodo.

Revenge is if I knocked the birds nest down. The distinction is pretty big.

 

[DHK]

I never used the word 'revenge'. I'm talking about the fact that you can't let this go from your life.

But "whatever" dude. You just keep pounding away at that pain that somehow you were taken advantage of... and you let it happen. I hope you can resolve this pain somehow.

Are you even in the business anymore?

 

[formercoldcaller80]

Contradiction #1 - It is ironic that you started this conversation by criticizing the value of my three post, yet now you've made three negative posts yourself. And still not one of your posts has addressed the topic at hand, which is the poor script from Darren.

Contradiction #2 - Even more ironic, one of your posts has a tag line that says, "It's about quality of posts... not quantity." Yet you admit to placing value over someone who many posts on forums over someone with **actual experience on the topic at hand.** Having a 1000posts doesn't make you an expert in any topic. It just means you spend an inordinate amount of time on the internet. No professional athlete became a professional by posting about it in a forum. It came from time in the gym.

These are rather large contradictions to make, since you are judging the value that people bring to the forum. You should take a moment to reflect on your own advice to prevent from further discrediting yourself.

Your final comments which resort to implied personal attacks really show your lack of consideration and level of maturity. Maybe if you tell someone that they are in pain often enough, one day someone might just believe you.

And the question, "are you even in business anymore?" sounds just like the internet meme, "do you even lift bro?" so it's really hard to take you seriously...

I'll share one more piece of advice with you. You mentioned that people should learn from their experiences and then let them go. I agree, they should learn from it. But unless the experience is consuming your every action and draining your spirit, there's no need to "let it go".

Does a woman who was raped and taken advantage of by her teacher need to "get over it" when she warns other students of her past experience? No...if you tell her to "let it go" you're making the assumption that she stays home thinking about it and reliving it...That's quite a bold assumption.

Warning people about crooks is the civil thing to do.

I don't think about the guy who scammed me until someone talks about him. A friend of mine happened to tell me that his internal circle was falling apart due to lawsuits two days ago. Then I took a look to see how he was doing by typing his name into the internet. The internet is incredibly convenient like that. That's how I found this post.

I'm not ashamed of the fact that he scammed me. After all, there's a reason why he preys on recent college grads. And I certainly won't let anyone try to abash me into feeling insecure about that mistake.

You should never be ashamed of your mistakes lest you hope to fool everyone into thinking you are perfect. Real people have both good and bad experiences in their life. And they are comfortable enough with themselves, to share the truth so that other can learn from it.

 

[DHK]

ROFL!

Just read your link. This business will chew you up and spit you out. Do you know how many places sound like this? Here's a clue: MOST OF THEM!

I could say the same things regarding MassMutual. I DID say some similar things regarding Independent Capital Management. See my link below for my review.

This is a COMMISSION environment. It's hard. That's why it pays top producers so well.

Either you stick it out, find another one, go on your own, or you quit and get a regular job.

And yes, I have a low opinion of most people's evaluation on glassdoor.com. Most people want an easy job where they can just "show up" and do the work that is handed to them. That is NOT this business!

Want to read a decent evaluation on glassdoor.com? Try out this one:

Independent Capital Management Financial Services Specialist Interview Questions | Glassdoor

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Take this poem and commit it to memory:

Career Agency Mantra

Hire 'em in masses
Teach 'em in classes
Sell all their family and friends
and Fire their ***es! (Or rather wait for them to quit)

Rinse and repeat.

This is most career agency's business plan to sell more policies.

To buck the trend, you have to do more than that and have a better plan for YOU than they do.

 

[formercoldcaller80]

That mantra sounds about right. Haha.

First I should point out that the review you read wasn't mine. Thats just the first review that pops up when you search the company. My review was probably the first or second negative review ever written about the apex scam. Based on the volume of negative reviews...It is apparent that a lot of other people who have worked there came to the same conclusion.

Second, the purpose of that forum is for real employees to give honest reviews companies...or in this case Apexs shady business practices and poor investment in their new employees...as opposed to scripted reviews from current employees that are trying to kiss butt, so that prospective employees get to hear the WHOLE truth. In this case the truth isn't pretty.

But you're right about one thing...Darren lives that mantra.

 

[Bdaniels]

Hello Formercoldcaller80

I want to thank you for ALL your threads. It saved me from making a huge mistake. I repeatedly have recieved job offers from this "Darren Sugiyama" the Davinci company and one day I actually replied. Then went to do my research even looked on BBB found no record positive of them. So then I tried to find feedback came up with nothing real only kiss ass employees with robotic replies to how the company is so great. Nothing seemed genuinely honest, so I email the recruiting guy "Chris Perilla" and threw some questions his way. Shocking I got a reply back at 4:10am from his cell phone nevertheless saying nothing to answer my company questions but go google Darren Sugiyama we are a reputatable legitimate company. On doing so I came across this which also led me to read up on apex as well. So thank you for giving me GREAT insight on Darren Sugiyama and not leaving my "REAL" Career for a bunch of lies with this company.

Hi DHK, the topic at hand is the poor script offered from Darren. If you have anything to say about the script, please share your experience as it would contribute to the forum as a whole.

In regards to your sidebar, it sounds like you give credibility to someone's opinion based on how long they've been on the forum...as opposed to actual experience on the topic at hand. I hope this forum takes itself more seriously than that.

Not to mention, the point of a forum is to hear multiple perspectives. Not just the perspective of a few posters who have been here the longest. No social network would succeed on that premise.