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"Again, it's just these little things that are adding up giving me some bad vibes." This type comment should never be placed on a forum such as this. I posted this: "I appreciate your postings as I have recently signed on with EFES and have questions about my decision." That comment got my account frozen and mailings and leads stopped. No one bothered to call me and ask what those questions were; just stopped everything. Between that and low return percentages, it took nearly 4 months to get 60 leads. My PPL on those leads was $172, so you can see I was producing, but spreading that out over four months and driving over an hour to get to the area that was assigned to me (at $4 per gallon gas) was my undoing. Now, being told that my manager doesn't give releases leads me to believe that things weren't quite as rosy as they let on.
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Do you have all your contracts with them?
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Really sounds like a lot boils down to the manager you pick.
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This is just the way business is done.
Never give up your leverage by putting your eggs all in one basket.
You learn these things through experience.
Never give up your leverage by putting your eggs all in one basket.
You learn these things through experience.
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Again, the companies are kore at fault than the OMO. They are the ones holding up your contract based on an agreement they have with the IMO that the agent is not a party to. The agent never agreed to the release policy and the agent never signed off on it.
If I were to leave EFES I believe I could get released and I know Travis would be in my corner to help but if that's pie in the sky thinking on my part then so be it.
If I were to leave I would want to contract with RNA, Americo and AmCon and would be upset if I couldn't. I don't really give a **** about waiting out Mon, Foreters or Oxford.
I would be more upset with RNA if they wouldn't recontract me than I would with EFES. I've qualified for the last two trips with RNA and just missed the one before those, {I would have made that one if they had prorated the qualifying since I started writing them halfway into the qualifying period}, and I got an award from them in Hawaii as a Top 10 agent with them. I don't if I will get one of those next week.
So if RNA wouldn't recontract a Top 10 agent because of an agreement with a 3rd party I would seriously have to reconsider if I wanted to contract with them.
Same for Americo and AmCon. But I am not a top producer with either of those so I could see them leaning to the IMO. Even though it's still wrong.
But, bottom line, there's too many companies out there to write. I could do just fine while waiting out my probation, {I can't think of a more appropriate word for what they are doing}.
Releases are a huge issue in the med sup business and even moreso in the MA business. For life products it's a speed bump. No more than that.
If I were to leave EFES I believe I could get released and I know Travis would be in my corner to help but if that's pie in the sky thinking on my part then so be it.
If I were to leave I would want to contract with RNA, Americo and AmCon and would be upset if I couldn't. I don't really give a **** about waiting out Mon, Foreters or Oxford.
I would be more upset with RNA if they wouldn't recontract me than I would with EFES. I've qualified for the last two trips with RNA and just missed the one before those, {I would have made that one if they had prorated the qualifying since I started writing them halfway into the qualifying period}, and I got an award from them in Hawaii as a Top 10 agent with them. I don't if I will get one of those next week.
So if RNA wouldn't recontract a Top 10 agent because of an agreement with a 3rd party I would seriously have to reconsider if I wanted to contract with them.
Same for Americo and AmCon. But I am not a top producer with either of those so I could see them leaning to the IMO. Even though it's still wrong.
But, bottom line, there's too many companies out there to write. I could do just fine while waiting out my probation, {I can't think of a more appropriate word for what they are doing}.
Releases are a huge issue in the med sup business and even moreso in the MA business. For life products it's a speed bump. No more than that.
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Sounds like having Travis in your corner is big. Really does sound like there are some differences in managers.
Seems like a while back you guys mentioned some big hitters leaving for recruiting opportunities. Did they have any issues getting released?
Seems like a while back you guys mentioned some big hitters leaving for recruiting opportunities. Did they have any issues getting released?
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The EFES deal, in my opinion now, is that it's great for the producer but not so much if you want to build a team.
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And not everyone wants to be a cat rancher...Ie not everyone wants to recruit.
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If any FE agent feels like he's stuck with any FMO I have good news. You aren't. We have so many companies to choose from you don't need anything you had at your current FMO.
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