FTC to BAN Robo Calling September 1st
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Actually, they called you on a business line, which is not part of the restriction, or at least I don't think it is.
Insuranceagents.com would not be calling a home line to get agents to sign up to buy leads.
Now, try to sort out the mess of what a business line is vs what a home line is, when many people use residential lines for home based businesses.
Dan
Insuranceagents.com would not be calling a home line to get agents to sign up to buy leads.
Now, try to sort out the mess of what a business line is vs what a home line is, when many people use residential lines for home based businesses.
Dan
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I'm hung up on that myself. I was about to do a VM blast (press 1 campaign) to Dallas area agents to promote a training session.
It's all on hold now since we can't quite yet determine if calling home-based agents is a violation. The VM company is running is past legal as am I.
In the mean time I'm not going to risk it. The biggest issue is any time you're calling home-based agents at any given time a percentage is now out of the business. Lists would have to be updated to reflect that which is near impossible.
It's all on hold now since we can't quite yet determine if calling home-based agents is a violation. The VM company is running is past legal as am I.
In the mean time I'm not going to risk it. The biggest issue is any time you're calling home-based agents at any given time a percentage is now out of the business. Lists would have to be updated to reflect that which is near impossible.
True enough. They need something similar to NCOA (National Change of Address database) where you could put the numbers through and it would mark all of the service changes (disconnnects, new person, etc) that have happened in the last xxx months.
I know I used to complain about running my bulk mail through NCOA till I realized it actually saved me money. I was mailing home quotes and if they moved (and many homeowners have lately), they won't be interested in home insurance on the old address.
My view (not a legal opinion) is that once a phone number is listed on a website as part of a business, it is a business number. Hopefully most home based insurance guys (and gals) have a different number for their business than for their home life.
Of course, while I was typing this, I got interrupted with a 'Press 1' call on my cell phone. No, I did not want to sell their annuities.
Dan
I know I used to complain about running my bulk mail through NCOA till I realized it actually saved me money. I was mailing home quotes and if they moved (and many homeowners have lately), they won't be interested in home insurance on the old address.
My view (not a legal opinion) is that once a phone number is listed on a website as part of a business, it is a business number. Hopefully most home based insurance guys (and gals) have a different number for their business than for their home life.
Of course, while I was typing this, I got interrupted with a 'Press 1' call on my cell phone. No, I did not want to sell their annuities.
Dan
Disclaimer: I didn't read all of the fine print, so I could be completely wrong on this but here goes: I think it doesn't matter if it's business or residential for the robocalls. According to the TM company that I use, they have stopped robocalls entirely for both business and residential.
Here is the link to the FTC blast.
FTC Issues Final Telemarketing Sales Rule Amendments Regarding Prerecorded Calls
I have also attached the "fine print" if anyone has insomnia and needs a quick fix.
Here is the link to the FTC blast.
FTC Issues Final Telemarketing Sales Rule Amendments Regarding Prerecorded Calls
I have also attached the "fine print" if anyone has insomnia and needs a quick fix.
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Agreed. I see nothing in that text stating that it's ok to robocall businesses.
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Huh? Are you a physician? I think you mean patience----and you'll need plenty of it with all the forthcoming changes from Obamaland!
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This is what really irks me is when congress passes laws and exempts themselves....Now some people will respond that its only during the election season that they do this but I think that makes it even worse the Politicians are the worst I will get 8 or more calls during the election and then they stop because once they get reelected they don't care to talk to us anymore...I say if congress wants to pass any law they must also be bound by it.
So I can't get on a do not call, can spam, do not mail list for politicians?
Huh? Are you a physician? I think you mean patience----and you'll need plenty of it with all the forthcoming changes from Obamaland!
Look at that, I feel like an ***. I correct people all the time for simple things like that and here I am doing it as well. Ooops! Sorry about that.
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You wont see anything saying it's ok to call businesses because that's not what the regulations are about. Right under the FTC logo you'll see "Protecting America's Consumers". They don't "protect" businesses which is why we don't have to scrub the names and numbers of businesses against the DNC registry. We can absolutely call businesses, including other agents, using robocalls. One way to give yourself an extra layer of protection would be to buy the data from a list broker and specifically ask for a list of insurance agencies. That way, in the even someone does have more motivation to retaliate than Thatguy, you'll have a solid defense. Another way you could be more protected is to make sure that you're VB sounds has a target audience of insurance agencies, instead of just independent insurance agents. So between buying a list of companies that have their SIC listed as an agency and using a marketing piece that is targeted towards agencies (even if it's just a sole prop), you'll have solid footing if someone decides to try to make an issue out of a legitimate call.
That all being said, why don't you just have someone make phone calls to invite them?
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