Hello Again From Tennessee

Hello All!

First off I want to apologize for the length of this message and if you want to TL; DR I certainly don't blame you. I joined this forum back in late 2008 because I was thinking about going into the insurance business. I ended up staying in Medical Sales in Nashville Tennessee because that is what I knew (20+ years). However, I am almost 54 years old and was just recently laid off from my job selling Electronic Medical Record (EMR) products into hospitals. It's a long story but I truly believe that I was discriminated against due to my age and might pursue some recourse later. That being said, I am still pretty sharp and have a BS/MS in Engineering and a MBA in Finance and Marketing so I can pick up information fairly quick.

Now selling and prospecting skills can transfer across industries so I believe I have a good foundation to grow from. I have done my share of cold calling and find that is not very efficient use of my time but sometimes it's necessary. I kept my H/L licenses current in Tennessee so I only need to take some refresher courses to get up to speed.

Here is my dilemma; I am not sure what products I should sell. I know you can't be all things to all people so focusing on certain product lines seems obvious. However, there are so many products out there (LTC, Health, Annuities, WL, Term, FE and others) I am finding it difficult to narrow down what to do. I have started to read the forum more heavily now that I don't have the distraction of a job :mad:. I have started to drill down into the various products to look at what are their good and bad points are so any suggestions would be appreciated. I am just looking for any guidance you experts my have---the good and the bad.

My beautiful bride of almost 23 years is a RN at Vanderbilt Medical Center in Nashville and makes pretty good money. We also have a daughter who will be a sophomore at the University of Alabama this fall. Money is and will be tight in the near future and while I want make money quickly as possible with insurance I also want to finish out my career in this industry so I am looking at everything from the present to a 15-20 year perspective.

My wife thinks that being a captive agent (working for the name-brands like State Farm, All State, Farmers, NYL etc.) has more security and a salary but I have read some of the horror stories about those companies that I am leery of them. Also I don't know if my age will be an issue with them since they seem to burn through the youngsters at an alarming rate. Being independent seems to be more flexible but you may have to really start at the bottom and try to claw and scrape to the top. I realize that being in insurance and sales in general is not for everyone but I do have a track record of being successful. These are just my thoughts and any feedback or suggestions would be appreciated.

For the TL; DR crowd, I am 54 had a 20 year successful career in medical sales in Tennessee and what to know where the growth potential is with insurance and whether captive or independent is the way to go given my age and situation.

Thanks
Tennesseehorn
 
can you summarize this book for us. People do not want to read a story and answer it..just quick to the point!
 
Welcome to the forum. Your wife is correct on captive giving some training etc. Different outfits different levels though. WithL&H there are allot of options and with your sales background you may really need product knowledge more than prospecting tips. A good IMO may be the best bet, once you pick a niche. Best of luck to you! Welcome to the forum.
 
Fine. I admit it. What did the rest of the post say?

can you summarize this book for us. People do not want to read a story and answer it..just quick to the point!


Age is an issue with medical sales and I was tired of having very little control of my future.

I would like advice on captive verses IMO and what product lines that I can sell with a health/life license that are needed/hot and profitable.
 
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Welcome to the forums! I'm trying to decide on the whole captive vs independent thing too. Lots of good information on here and at times I think maybe just TOO much information; it's hard to put it all together. It burns me to hear you feel you were discriminated against because of your age. Companies need to hire based on ability and nothing else! Hopefully in insurance your age will work for you and be an advantage. Im sure most people of retirement age would trust you more than a 19 year old or 22 year old. Best of luck to you.

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Welcome to the forums! I'm trying to decide on the whole captive vs independent thing too. Lots of good information on here and at times I think maybe just TOO much information; it's hard to put it all together. It burns me to hear you feel you were discriminated against because of your age. Companies need to hire based on ability and nothing else! Hopefully in insurance your age will work for you and be an advantage. Im sure most people of retirement age would trust you more than a 19 year old or 22 year old. Best of luck to you.

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Thank you for your thoughts and I do agree about age especially when talking with older people about life/FE and annuities where you can "relate" to their situation.
 
First of all welcome to the forum. I'm 52 and have been in the insurance industry for 33 years and can honestly say I've never been discriminated against because of my age, thank God. I totally agree that you need to decide to go captive or independent. Me personally, I'll go independent every time. I also agree that you need to find a niche that works best for you. Me personally, I like the senior market. Med-Supps and FE, along with annuities just worked well for me. The very best of luck in your new endeavor.
 
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