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I don't think they are illegal business to business. Just business to non business owner. Could be wrong.

No you're right. They're illegal B2C, but seeings how we all have phone numbers listed with our states DOI, I think they can call us. Lest we forget, we are all business owners :).

How you been bboman? Still working those TM leads?
 
No -- any outbound cold call to a residential line that's an automated recording is against B2C solicitation laws and can end you up with an $11,000 fee for each call you make.

There are still vendors who do it trying to skirt the law, though.

Best to stick with live telemarketing to generate over-the-phone leads.

The press 1 lead vendors I have talked to start the call with a live telemarketer and than tell the prospect to stay on the line for more information, than the interested prospect leaves their contact info. This is how they skirt the robocall law.
 
No you're right. They're illegal B2C, but seeings how we all have phone numbers listed with our states DOI, I think they can call us. Lest we forget, we are all business owners :).

How you been bboman? Still working those TM leads?

Yes still working them a good bit. How have you been? I moved to an area and had no phone service is why I wasn't on the forum a couple months. Got it straight now though.
 
Yes still working them a good bit. How have you been? I moved to an area and had no phone service is why I wasn't on the forum a couple months. Got it straight now though.

Been good. Where did you move that had no phone service? Alaska?
 
The press 1 lead vendors I have talked to start the call with a live telemarketer and than tell the prospect to stay on the line for more information, than the interested prospect leaves their contact info. This is how they skirt the robocall law.

Give 'em a shot if they'll hold you harmless.

Press 1's were the best leads I ever worked.
 
Been good. Where did you move that had no phone service? Alaska?

I live in IN and we have no {mobile} phone service where I live. I've got to drive as much as 2-3 miles to get into mobile phone service range. Although when the atmosphere is right I can go stand in a certain spot in my neighbors driveway up on a hill, and on one foot and leaning to the left, and make a low quality call. Of course I am old-school and still have multiple landlines, which fortunately we do have and it is not a *party line* either. There are some good hiding places in the Hoosier State.

* For the youngsters, a *Party Line* has nothing to do with drinking or hail raising, it is [was] a shared line with more than one residence, back in the old days. The phone would ring and you'd p/u and your neighbor or two or threee may already be on the line talking to someone. Hence, multiple parties on the same line (phone number), or Party Line for short. :idea:
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Give 'em a shot if they'll hold you harmless.

Good idea in theory.... but the problem is that a vendor cannot absolve you of liability in the eyes of the FTC. Yes, in theory they could represent you or stand good for any civil penalty levied against you, but we know how this would turn in reality. "I never said that we would pay your $ 25K fine... and your 20K legal bill". Their insurance carrier will not allow a vendor to obligate its carrier by some verbal agreement for what is commonly known as an 'additional insured' scenario. I think if you use them you are at risk on your own, or at least that seems to be how the statute reads.
 
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