NAA Cult

[PittAgent]

I somehow ended up on an NAA mailing list after checking them out months ago. I don't ask to be taken off just because of the entertainment factor. I actually listened to one of their "awesome calls" by their big dog Andy and the whole time he just bragged about how people were "crushing it" and how if you weren't with NAA you'd he left behind. There was nothing useful from this "guru" at all. Check out this email
I received yesterday. I can't believe people fall for this crap:

Hey Guy's ... here is the call/time information for the call with Andy ... We want everybody on this call, even the ones in class

Make sure you are promoting on EVERY call ... This will be a GREAT CALL!

Please let me know who you will have on this call!

TEAM!!! PLEASE RESCHEDULE ANY COMMITMENTS TO BE ON THIS CALL. YOU WILL GET TO LEARN TO STRUCTURE YOUR BUSINESS AND APPOINTMENTS BY LEARNING FROM OUR MISTAKES INSTEAD OF YOURS!!!!!!

THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CALLS WE CAN BE ON(NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN THE BUSINESS) AND I KNOW YOU BELIEVE ME!!!

BE. ON. THIS. CALL.

YOU WILL LEARN MORE IN THIRTY MINUTES THAN I COULD HELP YOU WITH IN A MONTH!!! WATCH ME GET MY BUTT KICKED AND LEARN WHAT TO DO RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!

LEARN FROM MINE AND BENS' MISTAKES.....

RSVP SO I CAN LET ANDY AND THE HOME OFFICE KNOW WHO WANTS TO LEARN AND GROW FAST & WHO DOESN'T.

THANKS!

 

[GoCubsGo]

It's sad to think about how those douche bags are getting filthy rich of the backs of so many suckers.

 

[PittAgent]

It's sad to think about how those douche bags are getting filthy rich of the backs of so many suckers.

They offered me 50% with "free" "aged" leads for the first month. Wouldn't tell me how much after that. Their contract also has an NDA that you can't write business with any company NAA uses unless you are contracted through NAA. That even included companies they use when you leave them and I believe the ban is for a year or two. It's the sickest of sick contracts!

 

[Rearden]

Just another life insurance business model.

They've realized, regardless of contract level, that most agents die out within 3 months, especially after selling their circle of influence, so why not milk them for all it's worth?

I tend to think the good talent wakes up, gets smart, and researches the alternatives eventually, and ends up "making it" anyway despite the obstacles.

 

[GoCubsGo]

Just another life insurance business model.

They've realized, regardless of contract level, that most agents die out within 3 months, especially after selling their circle of influence, so why not milk them for all it's worth?

I tend to think the good talent wakes up, gets smart, and researches the alternatives eventually, and ends up "making it" anyway despite the obstacles.

Yea, the good talent will eventually get away. The rest will just move on to the next part time get rich doing nothing scheme they see on craigslist. ha

 

[jdeasy]

My second gig in insurance was with NAA. My first was AmGen.

Different as night and day. I received no training from AGLA on how to sell insurance. No mentoring and no leads. They wanted me to provide them with leads from my "project 100".

Terrible experience and I would be out of insurance today had I only experieneced them.

At NAA I started at 65% contracts and $12 leads. I received extensive training and support and learned the "Hudgen's system" inside and out and went out an applied it on appointments from the leads. I started out only getting 5 leads per week. My first full month with NAA I wrote $12,000 ap on those 5 leads per week.

They moved me to 70% after my first month. I moved to 10 leads per week after a couple of months and stayed at 10 per week for the rest of my time there. My first full year with NAA I wrote $257,000 ap on 10 leads per week and my contracts had been moved to 80% by then.

I was still new enough to the business that I thought 80% was great. I never bought into the recuiting mumbo jumbo and that change from production to recruiting by NAA was really the reason for my leaving them.

Still, the training I recived from NAA is the foundation of my career now. I still use a lot of the things I learned from NAA in my presentations today.

I only went to one national meeting with them and that was in Atlanta. That part of it was distasteful to me with all the rah-rah BS and back slapping.

That also did not sit well with my upline that I would not go to those meetings. They even offered to pay my way to one since I was a top 15 agent with them and they wanted me to go up on the stage. I still wouldn't go even with them paying for it. Probably should have gone because I became an outcast after that and my leads started getting further and further away from home after that.

 

[GoCubsGo]

Yea I spent a few years with NAA in the early 2000's and received some good training, a good foundation. Anyone starting out today would be so much better if they started with someone like your group, fexcontracting.com or even EFES. They would get better training with more commissions and not be signing their life away in the contract. NAA lost their original focus or insuring people and are now about building downlines so they have more people to charge for training and marketing materials. Newby's are lucky these days if they know about this site.

 

[quackattack99]

My second gig in insurance was with NAA. My first was AmGen.

Different as night and day. I received no training from AGLA on how to sell insurance. No mentoring and no leads. They wanted me to provide them with leads from my "project 100".

Terrible experience and I would be out of insurance today had I only experieneced them.

At NAA I started at 65% contracts and $12 leads. I received extensive training and support and learned the "Hudgen's system" inside and out and went out an applied it on appointments from the leads. I started out only getting 5 leads per week. My first full month with NAA I wrote $12,000 ap on those 5 leads per week.

They moved me to 70% after my first month. I moved to 10 leads per week after a couple of months and stayed at 10 per week for the rest of my time there. My first full year with NAA I wrote $257,000 ap on 10 leads per week and my contracts had been moved to 80% by then.

I was still new enough to the business that I thought 80% was great. I never bought into the recuiting mumbo jumbo and that change from production to recruiting by NAA was really the reason for my leaving them.

Still, the training I recived from NAA is the foundation of my career now. I still use a lot of the things I learned from NAA in my presentations today.

I only went to one national meeting with them and that was in Atlanta. That part of it was distasteful to me with all the rah-rah BS and back slapping.

That also did not sit well with my upline that I would not go to those meetings. They even offered to pay my way to one since I was a top 15 agent with them and they wanted me to go up on the stage. I still wouldn't go even with them paying for it. Probably should have gone because I became an outcast after that and my leads started getting further and further away from home after that.

JD, Mustfast, did you guys sell FE or mortgage protection for NAA?

 

[GoCubsGo]

JD, Mustfast, did you guys sell FE or mortgage protection for NAA?

Me it was mortgage protection. They weren't into FE at the time.

 

[quackattack99]

Me it was mortgage protection. They weren't into FE at the time.

Ya, they have been recruiting me pretty hard lately. Mainly for the MP. Don't think I will go there though, they are pretty persistent. Makes me think that they really are just playing the numbers game.