Say Hello To The Public Option

[CHUMPS FROM OXFORD]

Click on the link or Nancy Pelosi will gnaw on your liver.

Reid to Back Public Option, Letting States Opt Out (Update1) - Bloomberg.com


I hope Ohio and Pa opt out!

 

[djs]

Does anybody understand at all how this would work? I doubt even those who are proposing it do, but figure I'd ask...

Near as I can tell, it will be so everyone can play the 'I told you so' game, regardless of the outcome.

Dan

 

[TXINSURANCE]

You can opt out (haha) but you will still be funding it! Are they for real?

 

[Winter_123]

Nothing going on here other than Harry Reid saying what he wants and then we will hear Nancy tell us what the house wants at some point. They dont necessarily get what they want or at least they are about to find that out.

Note that Olympia and Susan Collins are against the bill and the public option (I do mean to say I told you so) and Olympia is more powerful than Harry. In the end you will see that Olympia is the only repub who has played a real role in trying to stop this without a real fight. Ask Harry what he thinks about Olympia and you will find that he thinks she has been the only thing standing the way. And he would be right. Neither Olympia nor Collins are going to go for anything that even remotely looks like Medicare cuts either and that is a separate but huge fight.

Public option is coming in some form but with triggers and down the road and so is single payer. So it is correct to say this whole thing will always be positioned so that both the dems and the repubs can say they have won. It is also reasonably possible that the public option will be approved but funding deferrred as a separate enabling act. So you end out with a public option on the books but not yet fully funded or an incoming Congress threatening to cut funding for it. This thing will be a mess for years to come. Those who dont have the stomach for trying to figure out what the developments would do well to start tuning it out now. There are still lots and lots of folks here and elsewhere who think we are going to see how this goes this fall and then just go back to working with where we end out of do not end out. Its going to be revisions and add-ons and regulatory changes every few months for the rest of our lives. Just like Canada and the UK.

I am not saying hello to a public option. I am saying hello to a dogfight. Good.

 

[ins.dave]

You can opt out (haha) but you will still be funding it! Are they for real?

HA!
Please stop, my sides are killing me.
They really don't give a damn about getting costs down obviously.

 

[Mr. Bill]

Uh, we're hitting the debt ceiling very soon, and we want to pile on more? Try explaining that to the citizenry!

 

[TXINSURANCE]

HA!
Please stop, my sides are killing me.

Glad I can help.

Last I read this morning the opt out provision is for participation not for the funding. I am not against all reform, never have been but all of the provisions being recommended are complete garbage. This is a bloated bill that does nothing to lower costs (actually increases the individual market significantly).

This bill stinks.

All politics.

And where are the Republicans? Very quiet. No alternative plans, no solutions as usual.

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

Public option - bring it on. I'd like nothing better than those bureaucrats to crunch the numbers on GI with 100 mandates and no pre-ex.

 

[Winter_123]

And where are the Republicans? Very quiet. No alternative plans, no solutions as usual.

Those of you who referred to Olympia as a tool of Obama are about to get a lesson in how she used Obama to make her the most powerful member of the Senate now, and stands between Obama and his wish list. In addition she has the power to influence all republicans and many dems. Everyone needs to smarten up.

Of course Olympia is going to end out supporting some kind of reform so for those whose gig is to just say no, she is indeed part of the problem. For those who want to keep the bus from going off the cliff completely even if they have to fraternize with the enemy, then she is your Great White Hope. You decide.

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

Republican strategy? Sit back and watch the carnage unfold.