The Future Has Arrived (part 2)

[Winter_123]

At least once every other day someone pipes up here and accuses those of us who are against some of the dem proposals of being against reform.

For some of us the goal is not just reform - it is reform that works. Rule number one for choosing a strategy is that it must work, unless you are just some pinko wacko that goes around chanting "change all the time because it gets you tingley.

The folks in this article signed up for reform quite a while ago when they elected some pinkos. Does it appear to you now that what they wanted was really a solution and not just reform.

Wise up America. It is not about reform. It should be about reform that works. DUH!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/health/policy/11maine.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

 

[Kgrambo]

Do not forget Hawaii also tried the public option and had to quit 7 months into it because it was bankrupting the state. The cost estimates they relied upon for planning were way too low, as they always are when government is involved.

google "hawaii health care system" to read the article I found

The way I see it, we are debating the wrong things here. If the goal is to reduce health care costs, then we should find ways to use health care less. The market will drive down the costs. No one is asking how do we use less health care in this country! The answer is right in front of our noses IMHO! It is to become healthier! Set incentives for people who lose weight, get their blood sugars right, get their preventative care done so we don't have to use critical care later in life! No one wants to talk about eating right and getting their exercise as a way of cutting costs because that would require work and no one will vote for a politician who says they have to work to get results. They vote for the ones giving out free stuff....

 

[xrac]

Winter, you are the political guru of this forum as far as I am concerned. Thanks for the article!

 

[Mr. Bill]

Honestly, this is frightening:

Tyler Stratton, 23, manages Otto Pizzeria in Portland and is a graduate student in public health at the University of New England. He has no health insurance and does not plan to buy any. When he gets sick or injured, his parents often pay the bill.
"It's always been a joke in my family that I'm only allowed one hospital visit a year," Mr. Stratton said. "The last good one was when I broke my back skiing."

One would think that his "smart" parents would pay his premiums/whatever to ensure he has coverage. That's what I do.

The broken back? Could've been a Christopher Reeves catastrophe. Good this punk's laughing.