Annuities that Are Most Liquid

Well I am getting conflicting information from this web site.
What is a Fee-Only Financial Advisor?
"A fee based financial advisor can receive fees paid by you, and commissions paid to them by a brokerage firm, mutual fund company, insurance company, or investment partnership."

What makes it confusing is that many advisors call themselves different things.

In the true sense of the definition a Fee Based advisor only takes fees and not commissions. But a hybrid definition/business model has evolved where advisors call themselves fee based, but the fee is only for the "financial plan" and not for the sale of the product. Sometimes this is referred to as "double dipping". Honestly it is often uncalled for unless it is a very high net worth client who's "financial plan" really does take hours and hours and hours of work to put together... usually it is called for in estate planning.
But unfortunately there are some advisors who double dip for very simple clients and charge a fee of some type wrap/flat/hourly/etc. and also take commissions on the products.

So now the term "Fee Only" has come to the market. But the problem with giving it a general label is that the term is not regulated by an agency... so some "Fee Only" advisors use that term to mean they charge a flat dollar amount or hourly rate. Then other use the term to mean they charge a wrap fee against the clients assets and do not take comp.

Then others still call themselves "Fee Based" but still just charge a wrap fee against the total dollar amount and do not take commission in addition to the fee.
Some use this term instead of "Fee Only" because they do recommend products that they are not able to include in the wrap fee. It might be a fixed annuity, life insurance, long term care, disability insurance, etc. ... but long story short they use that term usually because they reccomend risk mitigation products which are not able to go under the wrap fee... so it would be untruthful to call themselves "Fee Only", but when it comes to securities (market investments) they really are Fee Only.

So it is a very confusing and convoluted world out there for consumers (and for journalists who are not securities licensed but try to pitch themselves as experts in the subject).

The best way to decipher how your advisor gets paid is to ask. They should be completely upfront and truthful.

The other way is to ask about licensing. Someone who is only a series 65 is not able to be paid commissions on securities products. Someone who is a series 7 or 6 gets paid by commissions. Some states allow certain financial designations such as CFP/ChFC/CFA to be a 65 equivalent and if they do not have a 6 or 7 they are Fee Only.


Also, just because a series 65 advisor does have a 6 or 7 does not mean they always take commissions with all clients. But they are required to fully disclose how they are setting up the pay structure for that client.

So basically all of the "labels" other than the actual licensing are basically just generalized labels that are not regulated and do not always mean the same thing with all advisors.

Clear as mud for you?

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Drifting,

You are correct. (Man, that hurts to say that.)

A fee-based advisor can receive fees in addition to commissions, trails, etc.

A fee-only advisor is only paid the consulting (flat fee) or AUM fee by the client.

If I had your mindset, the only place I would look for a fee-only advisor, would be here: Find an Advisor - Locate a Fee-Only Financial Advisor


Originally a fee based advisor was a 65 only. The term evolved over time which is why the term Fee Only came about. Some associations have tried to define the terms but they have no real regulatory authority beyond the advisors who choose to be members of that association and pay dues.
 
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The farmer is concerned about liquidity up until a point. He will not be working the farm in 5-10 years. His diabetes is costing him a lot each year. Plus, he has a concern about long term care.
I'm worried about the risks he faces and I want him to know how certain insurance products can help. If he decides to do something else, I can respect that, but it's my job to at least present information.


I would look into Anthem *(check your state specifics). That product has the income for LTC that will double as long as he has been receiving the income rider for 5 years. There may be other products available in your state, here in FL its the only one I am aware of.

Is he married and is the wife in good health?

There is several ways to package a plan for him. If Liquidity is important, if he needs more then the 10% a year then a shorter term fixed indexed blend with a longer term one could be something to consider.

I am not sure how savoy he is, but setting up a brokerage account and putting a portion into some ETFS, bonds, and dividend paying stocks would be another choice. All are very liquid and easy to get out of. That would be a % at risk but more liquid with no surrender charges.
 
Yes. Unbiased. Thank you! You can tell by the way I favor sensible investments (AGG, VOO) that cost 0.05% and 0.08% per year to own and cost less than $10 to buy or sell at any time.

Are Bogleheads listed as an occult?:goofy:

It's amazing how people can get religious over this stuff. It's kind of sad.

What do they make us say? "Past results don't guarantee future returns."

For us out there we know that what the chart says and what people actually realize in their portfolios are two separate things. Just look at the CGM Focus fund. It was the best performing mutual fund of the 2000's but the average investor LOST 11%. And don't act like that would have been different with ETF's. ETF's are easier to sell, especially if self managed like you are recommending.
 
Are Bogleheads listed as an occult?:goofy:

It's amazing how people can get religious over this stuff. It's kind of sad.

What do they make us say? "Past results don't guarantee future returns."

For us out there we know that what the chart says and what people actually realize in their portfolios are two separate things. Just look at the CGM Focus fund. It was the best performing mutual fund of the 2000's but the average investor LOST 11%. And don't act like that would have been different with ETF's. ETF's are easier to sell, especially if self managed like you are recommending.
ME getting religious???? I'd say I'm the lone voice among a bunch of insurance agents who preach against ETF's because ETF's don't pay commissions. ETF's are bad for business so just call anyone who supports ETF's "radical" or "a religious kook".

Back to the topic at hand. Nobody is suggesting that people should invest in random mutual funds. You buy INDEX funds. Bonds and stocks. AGG and SPY. Buy hold and rebalance. There is no rocket science to holding and rebalancing. Did you see the chart that I found? Nobody lost money during the 2000's.
 
ME getting religious???? I'd say I'm the lone voice among a bunch of insurance agents who preach against ETF's because ETF's don't pay commissions. ETF's are bad for business so just call anyone who supports ETF's "radical" or "a religious kook". Back to the topic at hand. Nobody is suggesting that people should invest in random mutual funds. You buy INDEX funds. Bonds and stocks. AGG and SPY. Buy hold and rebalance. There is no rocket science to holding and rebalancing. Did you see the chart that I found? Nobody lost money during the 2000's.
of course that will work for a do it yourself-er. May people are not however and so they get scared and sell low. They need the help, for a fee. You don't - I AM HAPPY FOR YOU. So, what you say is nothing new. It's boring.
 
Drifting... this is an insurance website... with a sub-forum for annuities.

However, I think you don't understand the role of a professional investment advisor.

The professional investment advisor is about managing investor BEHAVIOR... not about being the "cheapest", the most "clever", or "the smartest".

A big financial advisor coach and author is Nick Murray. Check out his books: Welcome to Nick Murray Online

Behavioral Investment Counseling

Nick's book for advisors is a complete investment advisory paradigm, based on two essential perceptions. First, that the dominant determinant of long-term, real-life return is not investment performance but investor behavior.

Second, that behavior modification ought to be, in and of itself, an advisor's value proposition, because great behavioral advice is — at critical moments in an investor's lifetime — worth so much more than the advisor can ever charge for it. The goal of Behavioral Investment Counseling is to free your practice from the classic excesses of investor emotion: euphoria, panic and performance-chasing.
 
Nobody lost money during the 2000's.

Except for all of those people who did. I know where your coming from and EFTs offer an option for the right person and I know you have said let the client decide and nothing wrong with that.

The fact is though there are people who will not hold during a decline...They buy in at market highs and sell at market lows. Annuities are not a fix for everything but for some people can provide a better than CD return without market risk.

I used to preach the same things when I was a registered rep and would show the charts and I would take the calls from concerned clients and talk till I was blue. One day the light went on I was trying to sell my risk tolerance to clients and convince them I was right and it would work in the begining but when markets turn clients don't rebalance they pull all their money out and hide it.
 
Per FINRA's own Financial Capability Study in 2012:

When thinking of your financial investments, how willing are you to take risks?
- 44% neutral
- 35% not willing
- 17% willing
- 3% don't know/no answer

I've only attached the one page... but you can get the Full Report here:
Financial Capability Study: U.S.
 

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