BACON IS FOR CLOSERS...

[goillini52]

Been really struggling with eating Vegan too, only seem to be doing it a few days a week now and then eating weird shit.

I knew the Vegan diet is weird, but I didn't realize that they ate shit!!! No thanks.

Go Keto!!!

 

[MedicareMillionair]

No, you just have to use a fork to eat it. Well, I guess you don't HAVE to use a fork. LOL. I really miss all the things that are bad for us, but I can really notice the difference if I cheat much. I'm glad the holidays are over.

I can get away with cheating now as well. It's like when you join AA, just don't drink for a year or two and you can go back and pound down a fifth every now and then, right?

 

[DayTimer]

Been really struggling with eating Vegan too, only seem to be doing it a few days a week now and then eating weird shit.

I did try vegan about four years ago before I even heard of low carb/keto, etc. I think I Made it about three days, woke up in the middle of the night, drove to walmart, bought a ribeye and threw it on the grill. Nothing like a grilled ribeye at three in the morning after gnawing on pasture grass for three or four days.

I'm really considering doing Keto for 90 days, just to see what changes the body will make. Still have this stupid belly!

I think you should give this a try, Doug. But do read the .pdf file in the link Medicaremillionaire shared. That is the exact document my doctor gave me when he confirmed I was now a full-blown Type 2 diabetic.

Don't get sucked into all the internet keto crap either. This is a high fat diet. For the first six to 12 months, most of that fat has to come from Doug's Belly Restaurant, not the food you eat. Do not avoid fat, e.g. do not trim the god fat from your steak, choose 73% lean ground beef instead of 90% lean. Avoid all vegetable oils. Cook with butter, lard, or bacon grease. Use olive oil as a garnish/dressing, not as a cooking oil.

DO NOT BUTTER or COCONUT OIL your coffee until you are at your goal weight (if ever). Yes, blending a table spoon of buter and coconut oil into your coffee tastes great. IT is also an extra 200 to 300 calories of fat that your body will have to burn before it turns to the fat in your body for fuel. You will not need "exogenous ketones" ever. You need to return your human body to its natural metabolism - eat meat, drink water, get lean. There is nothing wrong with non-starchy veggies, but you do want to keep your total carbs to less than 20 grams per day. And as Dr. Westman says in his diet .pdf, that is 20 grams of total carbs - no "net carb" trickery allowed.

Stay away from "keto snacks" sweetened with sugar oils and sugar substitutes.

You need to avoid the pro-inflammatory foods and chemicals and stick to a natural, whole foods diet that includes fresh meat, fish and eggs, and avoids grains, cereals, flours, sugars, and starchy root vegetables. Eventually, you may be able to add potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots back in. But for now, think steak with a salad dressed with olive oil, or shrimp sauteed with onions and mushrooms and tossed with a couple of chopped avocados. All kinds of good stuff that will enhance your weight lifting results and heal what ails you.

Good luck!

 

[MedicareMillionair]

I did try vegan about four years ago before I even heard of low carb/keto, etc. I think I Made it about three days, woke up in the middle of the night, drove to walmart, bought a ribeye and threw it on the grill. Nothing like a grilled ribeye at three in the morning after gnawing on pasture grass for three or four days.




I think you should give this a try, Doug. But do read the .pdf file in the link Medicaremillionaire shared. That is the exact document my doctor gave me when he confirmed I was now a full-blown Type 2 diabetic.

Don't get sucked into all the internet keto crap either. This is a high fat diet. For the first six to 12 months, most of that fat has to come from Doug's Belly Restaurant, not the food you eat. Do not avoid fat, e.g. do not trim the god fat from your steak, choose 73% lean ground beef instead of 90% lean. Avoid all vegetable oils. Cook with butter, lard, or bacon grease. Use olive oil as a garnish/dressing, not as a cooking oil.

DO NOT BUTTER or COCONUT OIL your coffee until you are at your goal weight (if ever). Yes, blending a table spoon of buter and coconut oil into your coffee tastes great. IT is also an extra 200 to 300 calories of fat that your body will have to burn before it turns to the fat in your body for fuel. You will not need "exogenous ketones" ever. You need to return your human body to its natural metabolism - eat meat, drink water, get lean. There is nothing wrong with non-starchy veggies, but you do want to keep your total carbs to less than 20 grams per day. And as Dr. Westman says in his diet .pdf, that is 20 grams of total carbs - no "net carb" trickery allowed.

Stay away from "keto snacks" sweetened with sugar oils and sugar substitutes.

You need to avoid the pro-inflammatory foods and chemicals and stick to a natural, whole foods diet that includes fresh meat, fish and eggs, and avoids grains, cereals, flours, sugars, and starchy root vegetables. Eventually, you may be able to add potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots back in. But for now, think steak with a salad dressed with olive oil, or shrimp sauteed with onions and mushrooms and tossed with a couple of chopped avocados. All kinds of good stuff that will enhance your weight lifting results and heal what ails you.

Good luck!

You nailed it!

The inflammatory issue is a big deal. I've added turmeric to my daily supplements some time back.

I agree, stay away from the Keto snacks. Why tease yourself with sugary tasting things. It's also possible that they could hurt your Keto diet.

Do stay away from the butter coffee. Once you get started, you won't be able to stop!

Daytimer, were you able to make the type 2 go away?

 

[LeadsuranceAlly]

 

[goillini52]

I did try vegan about four years ago before I even heard of low carb/keto, etc. I think I Made it about three days, woke up in the middle of the night, drove to walmart, bought a ribeye and threw it on the grill. Nothing like a grilled ribeye at three in the morning after gnawing on pasture grass for three or four days.




I think you should give this a try, Doug. But do read the .pdf file in the link Medicaremillionaire shared. That is the exact document my doctor gave me when he confirmed I was now a full-blown Type 2 diabetic.

Don't get sucked into all the internet keto crap either. This is a high fat diet. For the first six to 12 months, most of that fat has to come from Doug's Belly Restaurant, not the food you eat. Do not avoid fat, e.g. do not trim the god fat from your steak, choose 73% lean ground beef instead of 90% lean. Avoid all vegetable oils. Cook with butter, lard, or bacon grease. Use olive oil as a garnish/dressing, not as a cooking oil.

DO NOT BUTTER or COCONUT OIL your coffee until you are at your goal weight (if ever). Yes, blending a table spoon of buter and coconut oil into your coffee tastes great. IT is also an extra 200 to 300 calories of fat that your body will have to burn before it turns to the fat in your body for fuel. You will not need "exogenous ketones" ever. You need to return your human body to its natural metabolism - eat meat, drink water, get lean. There is nothing wrong with non-starchy veggies, but you do want to keep your total carbs to less than 20 grams per day. And as Dr. Westman says in his diet .pdf, that is 20 grams of total carbs - no "net carb" trickery allowed.

Stay away from "keto snacks" sweetened with sugar oils and sugar substitutes.

You need to avoid the pro-inflammatory foods and chemicals and stick to a natural, whole foods diet that includes fresh meat, fish and eggs, and avoids grains, cereals, flours, sugars, and starchy root vegetables. Eventually, you may be able to add potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots back in. But for now, think steak with a salad dressed with olive oil, or shrimp sauteed with onions and mushrooms and tossed with a couple of chopped avocados. All kinds of good stuff that will enhance your weight lifting results and heal what ails you.

Good luck!

Dave, I've been substituting turnips and rudabagas for potatoes, not as good, but better than nothing. Thoughts?

 

[LostDollar]

I've never got into the burger without the bun. I'm going to start checking that out. Do most places expect that type of order now?

Im in Texas.
Had a P.Terry's burger last night.
When I was making choices, I noticed that the menu said all burgers could be gotten bunless or as lettuce wraps.

That would suggest that serious burger places may be providing bun alternatives as a regular business practice.

 

[LostDollar]

I came over here to make a frivolous post, but I see all the serious concerns going on and thought better of it.
Best wishes to all with your diet projects.

 

[DayTimer]

Daytimer, were you able to make the type 2 go away?

Dave, I've been substituting turnips and rudabagas for potatoes, not as good, but better than nothing. Thoughts?

I am not sure I can say I made the T2 "go away," but my fasting glucose is routinely in the 80-90 mg/dl range. At my next physical, my Doc is going to order a fasting insulin test, and that will really tell me how healthy (or not) my pancreas are.

Over the holidays, I did some "experimenting." One of those was with potatoes. 2 hours after eating my blood sugar was higher than I'd like at about 147 (I really want them never above 140). However, prior to getting serious with the diet, a serving of mashed potatoes would send my blood glucose level to 250 or higher. So, while I may not yet have "cured" my type 2, I am definitely more insulin sensitive than I was 9 months ago. My pancreas still have some life in them, for the moment at least.

I also had some of my wife's cheese cake. Let me tell you about it.

Now, for me growing up, cheese cake in my home was some Philly cream cheese beat and whipped with some sugar and spread into a pre-formed graham cracker crust. I didn't eat it often as I did not have a sweet tooth at all (back then), but my mom would throw one together often when expecting company or going to a church pot luck - it was a quick easy dessert to make. Not this one.

My wife's cheese cake is a recipe handed down from generation to generation in her family, with the recipe my wife uses written beautifully on a faded, yellowed, brittle paper written in Italian. She makes it once each year, at Christmas time, having taken over for her grandmother about 15 years ago when great granny passed. It is a very special, Christmas cheese cake.

My wife's cheese cake has 27 different types of cheese (not really, but it has so many it always feels like 27 when she gives me the shopping list - it is a bunch). It takes her nearly 24 hours from first cracked egg to finished, baked cheese cake. I would give my life for this cheese cake, mmmmmmmmmmmmmkay.

Anyhow, I had some cheesecake. Two hours later, my blood glucose was 126. Still high, but not too high. I suspect that the high fat content of the cheesecake blunted the sugar response. it doesn't matter, though. I'd die for that cheese cake (and the lady who makes it).

So, Tom, what I suggest you do (knowing that you yourself were told you have prediabetes, which is actually Type 2 diabetes with an early diagnosis - lets call it stage 1 or 2 diabetes), is to get a blood glucose meter, and use it to eat to your meter. That way you can find out exactly how potatoes, turnips, and rutabagas affect your blood sugar levels. The best is to test one hour and two hours after eating, and then the next morning's fasting level (assuming you know what your average waking blood glucose level is). Then you will know for sure whether you can risk going for the mashed potatoes.

 

[LostDollar]

The following is not a bacon/keto story, but I hope it's an encouragement along the lines of "it can be done".

Years ago I was a member of a computer help forum. This forum had/has a number of members from the British Isles. One had the handle B igJohn something or other. One day he showed up as LittleJohn something.

He came on and announced he had lost the equivalent of two packed suitcases of weight and commented on how much easier his daily activities were.

Kudos to each of you for the discipline you are having to exercise to make changes.