Come out, come out, wherever you are...

[KRobby]

Makes you wonder why the turn over rate so incredibly high with FE..

My guess is because it's mostly a made up number to convince people they need to learn all the secrets from them or you will fail. Fear is an excellent motivator.

As a contrary, at ML I heard you need to move 10 mil by 12 months or you pack your things. We're able to understand how that retention number is derived, as it's not all people leaving on their own accord, nor pulled out of thin air.

 

[WinoBlues]

Does anyone want to talk about FE phone sales while the cat is away?

 

[DayTimer]

Does anyone want to talk about FE phone sales while the cat is away?

We are now free to discuss telesales, door knocking, prospecting of all sorts. After all, no one can possibly argue their way is the best and only way when their way involves fraud and deception. I am hoping we see Jeff Ward come back to the forum.

 

[VolAgent]

We are now free to discuss telesales, door knocking, prospecting of all sorts. After all, no one can possibly argue their way is the best and only way when their way involves fraud and deception. I am hoping we see Jeff Ward come back to the forum.

Disclaimer: Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

I guess now we know the secret to success in FE. I also see why he didn't share it with the class.

But really, just how stupid can you be? What was Medicaid and food stamps worth to them, maybe a couple of thousand a month with the medical portion? With his supposed level of production and the downline he had at EFES and FEX, why risk it all for so little money? And then with a child on your ex's insurance?

 

[nfl72]

who is jeff ward, and how does he fit into this mess?

 

[NSRH]

We are now free to discuss telesales, door knocking, prospecting of all sorts. After all, no one can possibly argue their way is the best and only way when their way involves fraud and deception. I am hoping we see Jeff Ward come back to the forum.

I will admit. The forum has been much more peaceful since the deplorables have cowardly run into hiding.

 

[goillini52]

who is jeff ward, and how does he fit into this mess?

Jeff is Jerard on the Forum. Bobby Knight attacked him for being a cold door knocker. Called him sleazy. Guess I'm sleazy too. The thread was posted in the 99% thread.

 

[nfl72]

This forum is a great source of experience and knowledge that many people, like myself, would not be privy to otherwise. The so called deplorables offer a wealth of information and unlike others in this forum, have the numbers to back it up. Yes they can be direct and to the point. That is probably because they have heard the same shit over and over again and grow hardened and become tired of defending their position.

We all know there is more than one way to skin the proverbial cat. Their way works very well for them. And yes there are people who make a good living at telemarketing and door knocking. The odds of newby's making a good living in this business are not very good. I have been in sales for over 40 years. The number of successful door knockers I have met can be counted on one hand. I door knock only when I have to and always with a DM lead card in my hand.

 

[Thedude]

This forum is a great source of experience and knowledge that many people, like myself, would not be privy to otherwise. The so called deplorables offer a wealth of information and unlike others in this forum, have the numbers to back it up. Yes they can be direct and to the point. That is probably because they have heard the same shit over and over again and grow hardened and become tired of defending their position.

We all know there is more than one way to skin the proverbial cat. Their way works very well for them. And yes there are people who make a good living at telemarketing and door knocking. The odds of newby's making a good living in this business are not very good. I have been in sales for over 40 years. The number of successful door knockers I have met can be counted on one hand. I door knock only when I have to and always with a DM lead card in my hand.

it's crazy because I have the complete opposite experience. Mostly everyone I know door knocks and write a ton of business. I don't know anything about telemarketing though.

 

[goillini52]

it's crazy because I have the complete opposite experience. Mostly everyone I know door knocks and write a ton of business. I don't know anything about telemarketing though.

He's referring to COLD door knocking with no DM lead. When I 1st started, I was trained to cold door knock...that's the way it was done then. I eventually changed to cold door knocking a targeted data list. Much more efficient because I only call on "old people", since I lead with Med Supps.