CrazyMonkey

[Thad.Sipple]

Why is it crap when others do that and not when you do it?

You haven't tried the leads yet you praise them.

That's also crap.

But I would go off what anyone says on here anyway unless I know that person.

But as me saying something about dig and not backing it up, what would you like me to back up?

I've backed up everything I've ever said about him in the past and I will again. Where would like to start?

Maybe you could just go to the archives and save everyone some time?

I am not praising them, I said I heard they are pretty good, that is not praising, I at least said I "heard" they were good, but that is splitting hairs. I do get why you said "when others do that and not when you do it?" I get that does make sense I "praised" them and didn't back it up. But in my opinion when ya go negative it is only fair to back it up. As for searching, that's ridiculous, for example if I am a new agent and ask a question, you expect me to search 10,000 + posts for answers, (ya that seems like an efficient way to use my time., It's much easier to ask a question and get an answer, and I think a person has the right to ask why are they good or why are they bad. Matt asked my why I thought what I thought and I answered it, no defense an answer, not sure why others can't just answer a question. To clarify you said you "wouldn't" go off what anyone says on here unless you knew them? Anyway it was a simple "hey why do you think that" and you slammed me. And to clarify i am pretty sure John Galt just ordered some and he "praised" them. So I was going by what he said.

 

[jdeasy]

I didn't say crap. I am not praising them, I said I heard they are pretty good, that is not praising, I at least said I "heard" they were good, but that is splitting hairs. I do get why you said "when others do that and not when you do it?" I get that does make sense I "praised" them and didn't back it up. But in my opinion when ya go negative it is only fair to back it up. As for searching, that's ridiculous, for example if I am a new agent and ask a question, you expect me to search 10,000 + posts for answers, (ya that seems like an efficient way to use my time., It's much easier to ask a question and get an answer, and I think a person has the right to ask why are they good or why are they bad. Matt asked my why I thought what I thought and I answered it, no defense an answer, not sure why others can't just answer a question. To clarify you said you "wouldn't" go off what anyone says on here unless you knew them? Anyway it was a simple "hey why do you think that" and you slammed me. And to clarify i am pretty sure John Galt just ordered some and he "praised" them. So I was going by what he said.

I have no idea what you just said. I did get the part where you said I slammed you. I didn't slam you. I just pointed out that you were being pompous in your response.

 

[Thad.Sipple]

I have no idea what you just said. I did get the part where you said I slammed you. I didn't slam you. I just pointed out that you were being pompous in your response.

Nice out. Doesn't matter but to clarify, I have never spewed CRAP about anyone or any company, and if I did I would back it up. So please archive where I have spewed crap about a company or person. I do agree I spew crap in general. HeHe

 

[jdeasy]

Nice out. Doesn't matter but to clarify, I have never spewed CRAP about anyone or any company, and if I did I would back it up. So please archive where I have spewed crap about a company or person. I do agree I spew crap in general. HeHe

Nice out of what?

You claim it's crap for someone to talk bad about a product they haven't used. But them you say it's not crap for you to praise a product that you haven't used?

I understand it's marketer talk when you do it but that doesn't make it less crap. In fact, it's probably moreso.

 

[Thad.Sipple]

I have no idea what you just said. I did get the part where you said I slammed you. I didn't slam you. I just pointed out that you were being pompous in your response.

Your older than me ( I am assuming ) So I will break it down slowly
1. I am not praising the leads
A. I said " but I hear DIG's TM leads are pretty good"
B. Hmmmm that's praising?
C. I should have backed it up with... John Galt just ordered his leads and had positive results. There was another person on here that ordered to and had positive results, but I can't remember who.
2. You said " Maybe you could just go to the archives and save everyone some time?"
A. That's ridiculous to search the archives. Completely inefficient use of time
B. It's much easier to ask a question and get an answer, and I think a person has the right to ask why are they good or why are they bad.
C. Matt asked my why I thought what I thought and I answered it, no defense just answered it

3. You said " But I would go off what anyone says on here anyway unless I know that person." (I assume you meant wouldn't)
A. Based on that, why then would we believe anything you say or I say or anyone else say's, unless we know them.

As for the rest of it, I am too tired to answer any more, I guess I am the old one.
Side note JD I like your answers most all the time.

 

[jdeasy]

Your older than me ( I am assuming ) So I will break it down slowly
1. I am not praising the leads
A. I said " but I hear DIG's TM leads are pretty good"
B. Hmmmm that's praising?
C. I should have backed it up with... John Galt just ordered his leads and had positive results. There was another person on here that ordered to and had positive results, but I can't remember who.
2. You said " Maybe you could just go to the archives and save everyone some time?"
A. That's ridiculous to search the archives. Completely inefficient use of time
B. It's much easier to ask a question and get an answer, and I think a person has the right to ask why are they good or why are they bad.
C. Matt asked my why I thought what I thought and I answered it, no defense just answered it

3. You said " But I would go off what anyone says on here anyway unless I know that person." (I assume you meant wouldn't)
A. Based on that, why then would we believe anything you say or I say or anyone else say's, unless we know them.

As for the rest of it, I am too tired to answer any more, I guess I am the old one.
Side note JD I like your answers most all the time.

Everyone likes answers they agree with.

 

[Thad.Sipple]

Nice out of what?

You claim it's crap for someone to talk bad about a product they haven't used. But them you say it's not crap for you to praise a product that you haven't used?

I understand it's marketer talk when you do it but that doesn't make it less crap. In fact, it's probably moreso.

Oh JD I am not a marketer, funny you think that. So let me ask have you used DIG's lead's. If not then you have as little right to talk negative as I do to talk positive. Cuz according to you, you have to have first hand use.

Let me try this.

Hey I heard JD is awesone, upstanding honest guy. (I have never met you but I heard it) Is that praise.

Or

Hey I heard JD is not awesome, and is not and upstanding honest guy, I wouldn't use him for anything.

Let me ask you, do you care if I back up the positive comment?
But I guarantee you are going to call me on the negative comments and slam me and defend yourself and so forth.

That is my point. If you don't get why I think someone should back up a negative more then a positive then we are at an impasse.

But to be clear I agree with the positive comment about you and I have never met you. (i guess I am gullible)

 

[jdeasy]

Oh JD I am not a marketer, funny you think that. So let me ask have you used DIG's lead's. If not then you have as little right to talk negative as I do to talk positive. Cuz according to you, you have to have first hand use.

Let me try this.

Hey I heard JD is awesone, upstanding honest guy. (I have never met you but I heard it) Is that praise.

Or

Hey I heard JD is not awesome, and is not and upstanding honest guy, I wouldn't use him for anything.

Let me ask you, do you care if I back up the positive comment?
But I guarantee you are going to call me on the negative comments and slam me and defend yourself and so forth.

That is my point. If you don't get why I think someone should back up a negative more then a positive then we are at an impasse.

But to be clear I agree with the positive comment about you and I have never met you. (i guess I am gullible)

I have not used his leads and would not use his leads even if they were free.

I do know him and I have had first hand experience with him and I would trust the guy as far as I could throw him. Even though that might be quite far considering that he is not tall enough to ride the ride at the local fair.

I have heard his leads are good but, again, I would not do business with someone that I could not trust and I can't trust him.

That's just the business side of it. Personally I think even less of him that of his business practices.

anna an example of how low he will go? I'll give you one, in having an argument with me he attacked my wife and brought her into the argument. Not in person mind you, even he is smart enough to not do that. He did it over the internet and still have the copies in a file and saved on the computer for when he denies it.

So, no, I will not use his leads if they were covered in monkey dust and I was paid to use them. But, even if his leads are good that will change. There's a reason he has been a manager with LH, EFES, SL and who knows where else and is not with any of them any longer.

Of course he praises every one of them to high heavens while there and trashes every other organization and then turns on them once gone. Except for EFES now. He did trash them but you can't get him to now. Wonder why?

But, if that's the kind of guy you want to do business with then have at it. I chose to not do business with someone I find to be untrustworthy. I would rather jump back in with Parker and Asses as him.

 

[Thad.Sipple]

I have not used his leads and would not use his leads even if they were free. I do know him and I have had first hand experience with him and I would trust the guy as far as I could throw him. Even though that might be quite far considering that he is not tall enough to ride the ride at the local fair. I have heard his leads are good but, again, I would not do business with someone that I could not trust and I can't trust him. That's just the business side of it. Personally I think even less of him that of his business practices. anna an example of how low he will go? I'll give you one, in having an argument with me he attacked my wife and brought her into the argument. Not in person mind you, even he is smart enough to not do that. He did it over the internet and still have the copies in a file and saved on the computer for when he denies it. So, no, I will not use his leads if they were covered in monkey dust and I was paid to use them. But, even if his leads are good that will change. There's a reason he has been a manager with LH, EFES, SL and who knows where else and is not with any of them any longer. Of course he praises every one of them to high heavens while there and trashes every other organization and then turns on them once gone. Except for EFES now. He did trash them but you can't get him to now. Wonder why? But, if that's the kind of guy you want to do business with then have at it. I chose to not do business with someone I find to be untrustworthy. I would rather jump back in with Parker and Asses as him.

"I do know him and I have had first hand experience with him and I would trust the guy as far as I could throw him. Even though that might be quite far considering that he is not tall enough to ride the ride at the local fair". Dude that's some funny ****. Hahahaha

I don't wanna copy and paste the rest, but WOW that's pretty low and chicken ****, sorry to hear that

Absolutely not the type of person I would want to associate with.

Thanks.

 

[Mattschmidt]

Have you tried them? I am going off of what a few had said on here and they are recent posts. I personally haven't tried his. I love how some of you spew crap about a person or company and don't back it up. It.s a bit un-fair.

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That is so helpful to a new agent searching for leads. WHY?

I was on a 3way phone call with DIG, when he purposely mislead the prospect about the waiting period of the life insurance she was purchasing, and type of coverage she was buying. If he lies to his clients, imagine what type of a lead producer he is....Get the Picture???