Critique My Manager's Technique!

I have gone out watching my manager sell Med Adv, Med Supp, LTC, etc,.. to seniors:

This is how he does it:

Tell me what techniques are good, what not:

There is a card printed out that the senior fills out asking for free information on medicare changes, and how it affects them.

We walk up to the door. He rings the bell, they come to the door, and he calls them by name, and tells them he's here for the appointment regarding Medicare.

After we get in, we sit down.

He starts by asking them if they have Medicare part A and B.

After this, he asks about the spouse, and then proceeds to ask how their health is.

Following this, he highlights the current coverages from medicare, and explains (depending on the situation,) that there are new Medicare advantage (or supp) plans that would better benefit the client, and goes over the benefits.

At this point, he sells Med Adv, or Med Supp.

OR, he moves to a STC or LTC presentation if their Medicare is better as is.

Upon objection, the guy seems to be a really hard closer,... almost to the point where I am embarassed.

Here are his objections:

You can't get insurance after the fact, and that many people are sorry once they can't get it.

When the money comes up, he brings up the fact that the savings in the new Med plan, or LTC/STC plan is there to protect their savings, thereby asking the senior to use their savings to fund the plan.

He also throws in the enrollment period, if it applies, the fact that he'll only be in the area, and the 30-day free look.

The problems I have with his visits are:

He makes it seem, even if they never budge until the end, that he will never come back after that point. The agency itself's literature pushes referrals, but he tells me he leaves no business card if they don't buy (which I don't understand,) and that he has no interest in a referral if they don't buy.

Is this the agent being bitter after 10 years of sales not to try and leave a card or two for a possible remorse call-back by the client later? Is he hurting himself by not asking for a referral even if they thought he was a nice guy, and a friend, or family member could use the services?

Should he be asking if anybody else they know could use one of these plans, even if they don't?

My manager is awesome with what he does, but I am questionable about the last part of the selling process, with a belaboring close (which could be necessary,) and almost a bitter end if they don't with no possibility of referral/later sale.

What do you guys think? I want to pick up the good parts of his technique, while leaving the less desired parts, if possible.
 
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he leaves no business card if they don't buy (which I don't understand,)

If they don't buy, he may be doing this as a CYA. Probably hoping they won't remember his name & report him for unfair or illegal sales tactics.

The senior market is tough and a lot of carriers (and agents) got in trouble over financial "elder abuse". This includes Medicare supps (and MA), annuities and even FE.

You really have to tread softly in this market unless you want to get in trouble. There are several in this forum who apparently make a good living without bending the rules.

Referrals are earned.

It doesn't sound like this guy earns anything other than a commission.
 
He is violating CMS when he rings the doorbell without an appt if he is going to discuss MA at all.

What company? Bankers or SS ;)
 
I'm just taking a guess here but do you guys works for Bankers Life?

I don't know if it is representative of the whole company but that seems to be how some of their reps operate locally. Very high pressure and doesn't leave business cards so the people don't know who to report.

It sounds like the guy may be doing a good job of discovery of their needs BUT he is a scam artist when it comes to selling and closing from what you wrote here.

I LIKE to get everything done in one appointment but I never insist on it. If the client is smart, once he hears you won't be back would have to think, then I don't want you as my agent. Why wouldn't the client buy from a local agent that would come back anytime they have a problem?
 
Sounds to me that if this guy could pull out a Ron Popeil rotisserie at the end just to leave with few bucks he would:

"So, no to the MA, LTC or supp? Well...watch what I pull out of my bag and I guarantee this is something you'll like. Tell me, how long does it take for you to thaw a chicken?"
 
Interesting how some agents continue to get away with unethical practices. My suggestion would be to run away from your manager as quick as possible before you learn bad things and you're the one that ends up trying to explain to your state's DOI that you didn't know what you were doing was wrong.
Or you might continue to ride with them and slip them your own personal business card and go back to them in a day or two and do it the right way. You really don't need to high pressure seniors, either you can help them or you can't.
I'll ask the same question you were asked before...who are you with? Is it Senior Solutions or Bankers? Is is someone else?
Bottom line...get away from this *** before you get caught up in something you can't get away from. Once you get away from him...REPORT HIM!! Or maybe you can just tell him to introduce himself to this forum because we need somebody to "teach" us how to do it. LOL:twitchy:
 
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