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The article calling it a Stupid GA law closes with this statement:

Amazingly, Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said after the law passed, the crime rate in the city dropped 89 percent. Compare that huge drop to the modest 10 percent drop statewide in Georgia and you have a pretty bizarre statistic.

How is that a bizarre statistic? Sounds like the folks that think the law is idiotic are idiotic.

I would be curious to know what if any changes there were to the number of accidental discharges.
 
I would be curious to know what if any changes there were to the number of accidental discharges.

Had to increase.. Unfortunately more gun owners means more idiots handling them. Like the guy that dropped his loaded 9mm derringer while showing it around in a packed auction house a couple of weeks ago. He was a retired federal transport agent so you would think he would know better. They gave him a choice.. gun safety course or a reckless endangerment charge.
 
Had to increase.. Unfortunately more gun owners means more idiots handling them. Like the guy that dropped his loaded 9mm derringer while showing it around in a packed auction house a couple of weeks ago. He was a retired federal transport agent so you would think he would know better. They gave him a choice.. gun safety course or a reckless endangerment charge.

Yep. I wonder if the reduction in crime more than offset the firearm mishaps.

Although you really have to start wondering about the training law enforcement is receiving. It appears the reserve deputy's records in Tulsa were falsified, even as the Sheriff tries to defend it all. Then a Deputy US Marshall apparently decided he didn't like being recorded so he destroyed a woman's cell phone. All while he was being recorded by another person.

Personally, I hope the various departments around the country wake up. Something is going to change, and I think they would much rather be involved in the change versus having it imposed by outside forces. Legislatures may mean well, but they also can be heavy handed and ignore reality as seen by people on the street. Rogue cops may be a minority, but they have a way of dominating the news and conversations.
 
Yep. I wonder if the reduction in crime more than offset the firearm mishaps. Although you really have to start wondering about the training law enforcement is receiving. It appears the reserve deputy's records in Tulsa were falsified, even as the Sheriff tries to defend it all. Then a Deputy US Marshall apparently decided he didn't like being recorded so he destroyed a woman's cell phone. All while he was being recorded by another person. Personally, I hope the various departments around the country wake up. Something is going to change, and I think they would much rather be involved in the change versus having it imposed by outside forces. Legislatures may mean well, but they also can be heavy handed and ignore reality as seen by people on the street. Rogue cops may be a minority, but they have a way of dominating the news and conversations.

The race hustle extortion game is a profitable business.

How many of the 500 funerals did Al Sharpton attend in Chicago last year?
 
The race hustle extortion game is a profitable business.

How many of the 500 funerals did Al Sharpton attend in Chicago last year?

So, it is ok to shoot a man lying on the ground being handcuffed? To then insult and assault the man after being shot? To shoot a man in the back who poses no threat to you or others? To prevent the public from seeing and recording what you are doing, so there is evidence and not just your word what happened?

Both men put themselves in to a bad situation, that still does not excuse the behavior of the officers in question. As to the US Marshall, she had broken no laws. He simply didn't want outside evidence of their behavior.

When someone hands you weapons, a citation book and a judge and jury treat your statements as being "superior" to the average American, you must be held to a higher standard. These officers are the minority. The problem is, instead of handling it internally, most other officers and departments move to cover up their actions.
 
So, it is ok to shoot a man lying on the ground being handcuffed? To then insult and assault the man after being shot? To shoot a man in the back who poses no threat to you or others? To prevent the public from seeing and recording what you are doing, so there is evidence and not just your word what happened?

Both men put themselves in to a bad situation, that still does not excuse the behavior of the officers in question. As to the US Marshall, she had broken no laws. He simply didn't want outside evidence of their behavior.

When someone hands you weapons, a citation book and a judge and jury treat your statements as being "superior" to the average American, you must be held to a higher standard. These officers are the minority. The problem is, instead of handling it internally, most other officers and departments move to cover up their actions.

I don't know all the facts in the cases so I try to withhold judgement but I did think they have proven the reports of falsified records in the one case had been proven untrue.

But you have to admit there is a racial element involved. Are there never any whites killed in similar circumstances? Are there never any whites killed by black law enforcement officers? Hispanic or Asian officers? Where are the reports of those killing and the wall coverage on FOX, CNN, etc.? The networks certainly appear to be AWOL in those cases.

I do agree that officers by virtue of their position should be held to a higher standard.. But they also deserve teh benefit of any doubt. I always ask myself, "How would I react in such an adrenaline filled situation?"
 
I don't know all the facts in the cases so I try to withhold judgement but I did think they have proven the reports of falsified records in the one case had been proven untrue.

But you have to admit there is a racial element involved. Are there never any whites killed in similar circumstances? Are there never any whites killed by black law enforcement officers? Hispanic or Asian officers? Where are the reports of those killing and the wall coverage on FOX, CNN, etc.? The networks certainly appear to be AWOL in those cases.

I do agree that officers by virtue of their position should be held to a higher standard.. But they also deserve teh benefit of any doubt. I always ask myself, "How would I react in such an adrenaline filled situation?"

I haven't seen anything saying that. All I see is that the reporters have resigned and their editor claims it is unrelated to this story. The sheriff denies the claim and I saw that the deputy's attorney has provided documents that claim the deputy was trained. They may be real or they may have been falsified at the same time.

Although, I think I'd rather claim I wasn't properly trained, versus I was trained and I still used the wrong weapon. :swoon:

If you weren't trained, you can always say it was an accident. If you were trained, they can always claim it was intentional.
 
I haven't seen anything saying that. All I see is that the reporters have resigned and their editor claims it is unrelated to this story. The sheriff denies the claim and I saw that the deputy's attorney has provided documents that claim the deputy was trained. They may be real or they may have been falsified at the same time.

Although, I think I'd rather claim I wasn't properly trained, versus I was trained and I still used the wrong weapon. :swoon:

If you weren't trained, you can always say it was an accident. If you were trained, they can always claim it was intentional.

He is between a rock and a hard place on that one.. If he claims he wasn't trained, then he participated in a criminal act of falsifying the documents which in some jurisdictions is a felony. If he says he was properly trained he leaves himself open to felony charges involving the shooting.
 
He is between a rock and a hard place on that one.. If he claims he wasn't trained, then he participated in a criminal act of falsifying the documents which in some jurisdictions is a felony. If he says he was properly trained he leaves himself open to felony charges involving the shooting.

Good point. Also he may be falling on his sword to help his buddy the Sheriff. He probably knows he is going to do time at this point. He may want to prevent a further investigation of the Sheriff's office.

I will say this for him. At least on the video he was remorseful. He clearly said he was sorry. I think worse of his fellow deputies who insulted the man and showed no concern for his injury. I think they should be charged just as much as the deputy who actually pulled the trigger.
 
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