Integrity buys another one.

[Newby]

This looks to me like a strategy for an eventual IPO.

Lots of older IMOs, too, it seems (but definitely not all). I thought you were old now, Scott? Ain't interested in retiring yet?

When I retire I'm going to fully retire. I just can't wrap my head around selling out to someone else and then working for them. I watched it happen in the funeral industry for years but it was all stock purchases and in the stock on the company plummeted. That was not a happy time for those guys.

The funny thing though is when I see agents claim that their retirement plan is to have this big downline under them. Like what you and I do is their dream retirement. I picture retirement being much different than this.

 

[Newby]

Vantis Life and Presidential Life were there =)

Yes but those were both duds. Presidential was priced too high. Vantis was priced good but the chargebacks and commissions were not great and their accounting department was completely incompetent. When Gerber hit the streets it was a really big deal. And as much as we are here bad about Amerilife that was them that brought that out. That's why I say take the good with the bad.

 

[DayTimer]

The funny thing though is when I see agents claim that their retirement plan is to have this big downline under them.

That's the dream that most seem to be selling. Imagine building a business where everybody's goal is to live off the labor of all the people to whom you pitched the same dream. Essentially a bunch of lazy people hoping to retire on the labor of a bunch of lazy people.

Think about that!

 

[rousemark]

That's the dream that most seem to be selling. Imagine building a business where everybody's goal is to live off the labor of all the people to whom you pitched the same dream. Essentially a bunch of lazy people hoping to retire on the labor of a bunch of lazy people.

Think about that!

Almost all people who are highly successful live off other people's labor...all the way up to Sam Walton, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, etc.. The difference is they don't hold out the possibility of being able to do the same to their "down lines" like is possible with being an independent insurance ..

 

[Thedude]

If that's your only retirement plan then yeah that's super dumb.

 

[HoosierLife]

That's the dream that most seem to be selling. Imagine building a business where everybody's goal is to live off the labor of all the people to whom you pitched the same dream. Essentially a bunch of lazy people hoping to retire on the labor of a bunch of lazy people.

Think about that!

Man I never assumed building was easy. I work at least 3x as much now then as a personal producer and have to deal with 1000x more headaches.

Pitching the unrealistic dream, like this thread's namesake, obviously works.

 

[rousemark]

Man I never assumed building was easy. I work at least 3x as much now then as a personal producer and have to deal with 1000x more headaches.

Pitching the unrealistic dream, like this thread's namesake, obviously works.

How is unrealistic? It has been accomplished by some.. Others can do the same if they have the talent, drive and catch a break or two..

 

[DayTimer]

Man I never assumed building was easy.

I'm talking about the way the builders dream is pitched. I've heard it myself. I certainly wouldn't think it is easy. And I'd rather be out selling than sitting around looking for people who aren't lazy and broke. I have said and will continue to maintain that most people being recruited to sell FE today are themselves future FE clients.

 

[HoosierLife]

I'm talking about the way the builders dream is pitched. I've heard it myself. I certainly wouldn't think it is easy. And I'd rather be out selling than sitting around looking for people who aren't lazy and broke. I have said and will continue to maintain that most people being recruited to sell FE today are themselves future FE clients.

I think I said that first

 

[goillini52]

Yes, we are the FMO using the tag line, "Not For Sale."

Bigger is not always better, just ask the flood of employees who have left because they no longer like the culture of a large, corporate conglomerate. Agents have choices. Carriers are also feeling the pinch with this changing landscape as no carrier wants the tail to wag the dog. We are still a family owned and operated company free of any outside investors. We don't take the easy private equity money so we can remain independent. Our goal is to allow agents to sell what is in the best interest of each, individual client.

Glad you're not for sale, but it wasn't you I was referring to.

Sell Insurance to the Senior Market | New Horizons Insurance Marketing Inc.

BTW, I love your videos.

Any new dancing videos on the horizon(pun intended)?