It Has Been a Good Run!

I have been in the Med Supp field since 1982, it has been great. I have made a great living, I have great customers and great associates.

I think it is time to turn my attention to another area- insurance wise or other. Companies have developed a game, lowering commissions and raising premiums, developing new companies and recylcing them all over again.

Government intervention has started and is going to take hold tighter than any vise grip invented.

I'm not sure where my focus will lie at this point.


Well it looks like the Obamaietes are after those dirty middlemen again. I guess everyone not employed by the Goverment is a middleman ?

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Your Weekly Medicare Consumer Advocacy Update


Medicare's High Costs
May 7, 2009 • Volume 9, Issue 18






Medicare's $1,068 deductible for a hospital stay and the 20 percent coinsurance charged for doctor visits and outpatient services like chemotherapy can become an overwhelming burden for older adults and people with disabilities. With no annual cap on out-of-pocket spending, the Medicare benefit does not provide enough protection against the high costs of treating a serious illness unless it is combined with supplemental insurance.
But the cost of supplemental "Medigap" coverage is increasingly out of reach for people on fixed incomes. Average costs are projected to reach $2,329 in 2011, and in 2021 the average cost will be close to $4,000. The private insurers offering Medigap plans spend only 72 percent of their members' premiums on medical claims; more than one dollar in four goes to marketing and administrative costs or profit. The rules in most states allow Medigap insurers to discriminate against people who have Medicare because of a disability, to charge higher premiums to older enrollees and, in certain circumstances, to enrollees with a history of illness.
One third of people with Medicare have retiree coverage through a former employer. But with each passing year, fewer employers are offering such coverage to their former employees. Between 1988 and 2006, the share of employers with 200 employees or more offering retiree health benefit packages decreased from 66% to 35%.
In addition, more than half of the people enrolled in Medicare private health plans are in plans with no out-of-pocket maximum. Other plans offer very high limits or limits riddled with loopholes: doctor visits or chemotherapy or other essential services don't count toward the limit. Medicare private health plans are also an inefficient way to deliver extra benefits. It costs the government $1.30 for every $1.00 in extra benefits provided through Medicare private health plans.
What is the answer?
The best solution is to allow people with Medicare to pay a surcharge on their Part B premium for supplemental Medicare coverage that lowers co-pays for medical services, provides an integrated drug benefit under Original Medicare, and caps annual out-of-pocket spending for both medical services and prescription drugs. One such proposal, entitled Medicare Extra, would allow older adults and people with disabilities to get all their medical and drug coverage from the most trusted and efficient source—Original Medicare—without paying the added costs of insurance middlemen.
In the meantime, Congress should strengthen protections for people who choose a private insurer for supplemental Medigap coverage, and prevent insurers from charging high premiums to the sickest and most vulnerable older adults and completely excluding people with disabilities. Guaranteed issue rules should be expanded to include people with disabilities, people who quit their Medicare private health plan and people who want to switch to a lower cost Medigap plan.


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"Beneficiaries currently enrolled in Medigap plans would save a total of $357 per year by enrolling in Part E. On average, supplemental premiums would drop from an estimated $1,400 per year under Medigap to $1,103 under Part E; typical out-of-pocket costs would drop from $933 to $873 per year. To provide equitable access for beneficiaries with low incomes, Part E premiums could be subsidized under the Medicare Savings Programs or through federal premium assistance, the authors say." (Medicare Extra: A Comprehensive Benefit Option for Medicare Beneficiaries, Commonwealth Fund, October 2005)

"As of August 2007, about 48 percent of beneficiaries were enrolled in plans that had an out-of-pocket maximum. However, some plans excluded certain services from the out-of-pocket maximum. Services that were typically excluded were Part B drugs obtained from a pharmacy, outpatient substance abuse and mental health services, home health services, and durable medical equipment." (Medicare Advantage: Higher Spending Relative to Medicare Fee-for-Service May Not Ensure Lower Out-of-Pocket Costs for Beneficiaries, Government Accountability Office, February 2008)

"Employers looking to rein in spending have been shifting costs onto retirees in the form of higher premium contributions and cost-sharing requirements, with a smaller share of employers terminating subsidized benefits for future retirees. These terminations have primarily affected new or recent hires." (Retiree Health Benefits Examined, Kaiser/Hewitt, December 2006)

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That article was written in 2005. The obama administration has not even eluded to anything like this being a possibility. If something like this does happen it will be about 18 percent cheaper according to their numbers but with a 3000 out of pocket maximum. If someone wants that level of coverage then I would offer them a high deductible plan f for even less than medicare extra and with a max out of pocket of 2000. My guess is that overall the medsupp will still be a better value even if it is 20 percent more expensive... Not to mention the fact you have more flexibility in the coverage levels you can choose with a supp.
 
That article was written in 2005. The obama administration has not even eluded to anything like this being a possibility. If something like this does happen it will be about 18 percent cheaper according to their numbers but with a 3000 out of pocket maximum. If someone wants that level of coverage then I would offer them a high deductible plan f for even less than medicare extra and with a max out of pocket of 2000. My guess is that overall the medsupp will still be a better value even if it is 20 percent more expensive... Not to mention the fact you have more flexibility in the coverage levels you can choose with a supp.


This article is new and is the first time I have heard it called Medicare Extra but you are right the Medicare Part E concept has been out there for a few years. My point is that the Omaba administration loathing of the privatization of Medicare is spilling over to Medicare Supplement industry where they just see us agents as gruby middlemen that only add cost.

This does not bode well for any agent planning on making a living " selling " Medicare supplemental insurance. The goverment wants to take over that industry too.
 
My bad, I googled the topic and found a similar article from 2005. I do see where your coming from however I doubt that medicare extra will add more value dollar for dollar than a med supp. The figure I saw for a cost estimate for medicare extra was about 90 additional dollars a month and it would limit the out of pocket to 3000 a year, with a 250 deductible and 10 percent coinsurance. High deductible f runs about 60 a month right now and only has a 20 percent coinsurance, a 135 deductible and a 2000 out of pocket max. A typical plan f these days is about 120 a month, I think it would be easy to show the value in an extra 30 dollars above medicare extra to have zero out of pocket. Also in 2010 we will see the new med supp plans m and n which will likely provide very similar benefits to medicare extra at a very similar premium.

I'm not too worried about it... Med supps aren't going away.
 
My bad, I googled the topic and found a similar article from 2005. I do see where your coming from however I doubt that medicare extra will add more value dollar for dollar than a med supp. The figure I saw for a cost estimate for medicare extra was about 90 additional dollars a month and it would limit the out of pocket to 3000 a year, with a 250 deductible and 10 percent coinsurance. High deductible f runs about 60 a month right now and only has a 20 percent coinsurance, a 135 deductible and a 2000 out of pocket max. A typical plan f these days is about 120 a month, I think it would be easy to show the value in an extra 30 dollars above medicare extra to have zero out of pocket. Also in 2010 we will see the new med supp plans m and n which will likely provide very similar benefits to medicare extra at a very similar premium.

I'm not too worried about it... Med supps aren't going away.

You are right there is still going to me room for the professional med supp agents but I think the Govment is making the pie smaller for us grubby middlemen as we all know consumers love to cut out the middleman if they can.Also consumer trust Medicare more than they do insurance agents.
 
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