National Health Care Proposed

[Crabcake Johnny]

I'm numb to all this. I've heard all this bull about national healthcare since the 70's and it's never gonna happen. Period. It's been the platform of coutless senate and presidential races since I was a kid and as soon as anyone's elected the idea vaporizes.

Saying that, everyone should have access to affordable health insurance. Of course, that's not the current system. We have families with health conditions finding out after they're laid off that Cobra is $1,600 a month, their state doesn't have a risk pool and they're uninsurable. Hourly wage workers certainly can't get health insurance if their employer doesn't offer it - so a lot of changes do need to happen.

 

[Zydo]

How ironic that this thread was started. Well, Hillarybeast is back at it.......see the following release.....



Hillary: 'Health Care Is Coming Back'

Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday outlined an ambitious agenda of legislative priorities while continuing to deflect questions about her presumed presidential ambitions.

"I will look at the possibilities, but I ... haven't really had the time to talk to people about it," Clinton told a breakfast gathering hosted by the Association for a Better New York. "It's been a busy election season that worked out well, so I will think about it. I'm open to thoughts."
Clinton was returning to Washington on Monday to participate in a lame-duck session of Congress in which lawmakers will tackle several pieces of unfinished business before ceding control of both the Senate and House to Democrats early next year.

But the New York senator was clearly looking ahead to the next Congress, which she, like other Democrats, has vowed will operate on a more bipartisan basis than it had under Republican control.

"We are ready to roll up our sleeves and work with our Republican counterparts. Our country works best when we govern from the vital, dynamic center," she said.

Since cruising to re-election last week against a weak Republican challenger, Clinton has parried repeated questions about her political future. While she hasn't disclosed her plans, polls show her the clear front-runner for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, with a national infrastructure of strategists and advisers and at least $10 million in her campaign account.

"Before, I didn't have time to think - I was too focused on what I was doing," she later told reporters. "I'm thrilled by the results, and now I'll have some time to think."
In her remarks, Clinton outlined a range of challenges she said Democrats would tackle in the coming months, such as trimming the federal deficit, reducing dependence on foreign oil, and improving the image of the United States abroad.

She also said Democrats would focus on improving the quality and affordability of health care - a touchy matter for the former first lady, who in 1993 led her husband's calamitous attempt to overhaul the nation's health care system. The failure of that effort helped Republicans win control of both the Senate and House the following year.

"Health care is coming back," Clinton warned, adding, "It may be a bad dream for some."


Let the fun begin...

 

[James]

She also said Democrats would focus on improving the quality and affordability of health care - a touchy matter for the former first lady, who in 1993 led her husband's calamitous attempt to overhaul the nation's health care system. The failure of that effort helped Republicans win control of both the Senate and House the following year.

"Health care is coming back," Clinton warned, adding, "It may be a bad dream for some."

Yes the next two years will be nothing but investigations and Hildabeast stomping her hoofs demanding National H/C. Which I do believe will leave the Dem's with one bad session of congress as gridlock will set in like never before. At least I hope that the Rep's will give back what the Dem's did the last 4 years, nothing but gridlock! Yet that is good, I like Congress in gridlock and let it continue!

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

Well, a short study into how the country runs will show you that the president basically can't do anything. The president can play with the military at will, but can't come close to enacting law on his/her own.

And just how many bitter MALE senators would be out there if Hillary actually got elected? It would be four years of nothing getting done - just to spite her. 100% pure gridlock.

And if Hillary is the Dem's choice for their candidate to win the primary get use to a Republican president for 4 more years. They'd better off up someone better than Hillary.

 

[www.echolsinsurance.org]

I am not trying to start another thread like the one we had before on this topic, just wanted to share something I saw in the news.

Since the Democrats won the house and senate, the have mentioned that they are looking at a National Health Care Program, since they think everyone should have healthcare.

Has anyone heard anything more on this?

I dread the thought of having government workers in charge of my health care. Thankfully, I don't think it's possible that we would change to a nationalized health care system since America leads the world in research, development, and care. If people want the government to pay for their health care, their personal assets must go first - hence medicaid. The only thing wrong with the system that we have now is that too many employers provide health insurance for employees. Somehow that needs to stop. People should pay for their own health insurance. They would be much more akin to purchase HSA plans and hense more likely to price shop for treatment. This would lead towards competition in the health industry.

 

[NHB_MMA]

Worst case scenario (from agent perspective) is you have a base plan with catastrophic coverage, similar to Medicare and it will open up a market for supplemental policies.

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

Read my lips; we will never have national healthcare. Both the UK and Canadian systems are complete train wrecks. We can barely keep social security alive and there's simply zero funding for it. It's lip service to get canditates elected. You cannot force businesses to provide it and the government can't pay for it without a significant tax increase.

The closest we'll come would mirror car insurance; make it mandatory and some state plan would have to take uninsurable people - but you'd still choose any company you want.

The country is all about the free market. National healthcare is socialism and it'll simply never happen here. If it was gonna happen it would have happended duing the Clinton admin. Not only didn't it happen, but it got slaughtered. National healthcare didn't even make it out of the starting gate.

Don't worry if you sell health insurance. You'll be selling it 40 years from now.

 

[taterpeeler]

and aint this thread a lulu... got a good chuckle..... yes, I gave cpr to an 8 year old thread

 

[AllenChicago]

and aint this thread a lulu... got a good chuckle..... yes, I gave cpr to an 8 year old thread

What's more amazing to me is that this "Health Insurance Reform" forum existed way back in 2006. Some of our members were still in diapers at that time!

When was the first Obama health reform thread posted, TaterPeeler? You're now also our resident historian.

-ac

 

[taterpeeler]

What's more amazing to me is that this "Health Insurance Reform" forum existed way back in 2006. Some of our members were still in diapers at that time!

When was the first Obama health reform thread posted, TaterPeeler? You're now also our resident historian.

-ac

Yes sir... I believe it was....the very first which is why I posted it... Well how did I find it? Well...one day you will find out