Postage rates going up 5% Jan 22. Fixed cost will be in the $40-$45 range

[theinsuranceman]

So you have been with SL for over 20 years ?

What can you do with what you have that a top independent agent appointed with many companies cannot do ? I would do well also if I was an independent.

What's your best rate for 10k M NT preferred? We're not the cheapest nor the most expensive.

Can it come near anything from Trans,LBL,Trinity,KSKJ ? I don't know their rates. But probably no since you're showcasing these carriers. If the cheapest carrier was what it took to be successful how come Lincoln Heritage is as big as it is? And also some of the more pricier carriers?

Do you make more money,have more freedom than guys posting here that write multiple companies? I don't know. I don't really care either. All I know is you're not successful. You spend too much time up here to be able to run 20+ leads each week

How come you never jumped ship to drive around,knock doors like we do ?
I've knocked on doors since 1996 when I ran a debit for United. And I was knocking on doors last week field training a new FE agent that had joined my team.

 

[rousemark]

Reading comprehension is your friend, learn it.

I said it was not my experience that responses are declining because mine are not. It shows your incredible stupidity to even imply others can't have different responses. But it shows more that you are just dishonest.

Nor did I start any argument. And I don't know what "up here" is. You are the one with the insecurities. You are always the one to turn anything personal. You are also the one that recruits 24/7 and takes any opportunity, even if it's a made up one, to recruit.

Constant recruiting for at least 15 years and you still don't have an agency built?

And being called weird by the likes of is a compliment. So thank you for that. You will never understand what I just said. But that's your cross to bear.

Think Gregg is overlooking the fact If you order fixed rate leads, you would not notice a reduction in response rates. You order ten leads you get ten. The lead vendor might have to drop more to get the ten and that is the reason fixed cost leads, along with other costs increasing would account for the escalating fixed lead pricing.

 

[jdeasy]

Think Gregg is overlooking the fact If you order fixed rate leads, you would not notice a reduction in response rates. You order ten leads you get ten. The lead vendor might have to drop more to get the ten and that is the reason fixed cost leads, along with other costs increasing would account for the escalating fixed lead pricing.

Ignoring maybe? Overlooking? No.

He's cherry picking statements in order to pitch his deal. It's what he's done "up here" for at least 15 years.

Lead response is all about the data. When I was EFES they stopped mailing my 2 favorite areas to work because the responses were too low. When I first went to FEX I went back to mail per 1000 with TLC. They got me more leads than I could work in those 2 areas. I did that for 2 or 3 years until FEX hooked up with RGI. RGI gets me more leads than I can work in those 2 areas to this day.

I'm sure responses are down in many areas over the last couple of years. But not to the extent that he wants to portray in order to recruit to an inferior opportunity.

 

[rousemark]

Ignoring maybe? Overlooking? No.

He's cherry picking statements in order to pitch his deal. It's what he's done "up here" for at least 15 years.

Lead response is all about the data. When I was EFES they stopped mailing my 2 favorite areas to work because the responses were too low. When I first went to FEX I went back to mail per 1000 with TLC. They got me more leads than I could work in those 2 areas. I did that for 2 or 3 years until FEX hooked up with RGI. RGI gets me more leads than I can work in those 2 areas to this day.

I'm sure responses are down in many areas over the last couple of years. But not to the extent that he wants to portray in order to recruit to an inferior opportunity.

As you know, I do not normally buy DM but have a few times. The last two times I did a 1000K RGI drop in my area, I received 5 responses. That is the worst I have ever received. That was Back in February.

 

[theinsuranceman]

Think Gregg is overlooking the fact If you order fixed rate leads, you would not notice a reduction in response rates. You order ten leads you get ten. The lead vendor might have to drop more to get the ten and that is the reason fixed cost leads, along with other costs increasing would account for the escalating fixed lead pricing.

Rouse it's hard to reason with JD. In post #11 above I was quoting word for word what Josh had said about $22 leads at 100% contract were no longer available in the southeast due to being too expensive via Ben.

JD was either ignoring or overlooking that fact in post #13. It's seems to me he just wants to sound important because he has some type of inferiority complex, or maybe he's starting to not feel important anymore? Who knows?

Maybe JD has started to recruit again?

 

[jdeasy]

Rouse it's hard to reason with JD. In post #11 above I was quoting word for word what Josh had said about $22 leads at 100% contract were no longer available in the southeast due to being too expensive. JD was either ignoring or overlooking that fact in post #13.

Again you intentionally misrepresent. Nor have you ever even once tried to reason with anyone.

I read what Josh posted. And I even said you cherry picked what he posted for your own benefit. I keep having to tell you this but reading comprehension is a skill you lack.

I ignored nor over looked anything.

You are quite transparent even though you don't know it. Nor do you understand what I just said. That goes to your lack of reading comprehension.

For your edification, Josh was speaking of his experience. I can't argue with his experience. But you would, if you didn't think it was helping your position.

Josh also said they target SL agents. Since you are now in lock step with Josh it follows that you are good with that too.

 

[DonP]

Jd response rates are down across the industry over the last 5 yrs no question in most areas . If you were running Ga, Fla , Sc and 5-6 other states rgi's charging Scott $45-$50 a lead . Hell in some parts of Indiana leads $39-$43 with rgi . It's very possible Scott's eating some of the rate increases .You drop 1000 generic fe with tlc . I assure you your total return will be much less than 5-10 yrs ago . Chris Etheridge will tell you the same response rates down . He told me 20 years ago he was getting 7-10% returns .

 

[theinsuranceman]

Again you intentionally misrepresent. Nor have you ever even once tried to reason with anyone. Prove it then

I read what Josh posted. And I even said you cherry picked what he posted for your own benefit. I keep having to tell you this but reading comprehension is a skill you lack. I posted exactly what he said. How could that be wrong? You can't answer that either.

I ignored nor over looked anything. Your grammar could use a tune up.

You are quite transparent even though you don't know it. Nor do you understand what I just said. That goes to your lack of reading comprehension. I am transparent and glad that you recognize that. You're right, sometimes we don't quite understand what you say because your command of the english language/grammar is rather elementary.

For your edification, Josh was speaking of his experience. I can't argue with his experience. But you would, if you didn't think it was helping your position. Once again it seems to be YOU with the comprehension problems. I didn't argue Josh's point I quoted his comment word from word.

Josh also said they target SL agents. Since you are now in lock step with Josh it follows that you are good with that too. Recruiters target agents from other carriers. You act surprised by that?

JD, do you confuse your policy holders when you are replacing their policy? You know, just like you're doing in this post.

 

[jdeasy]

Jd response rates are down across the industry over the last 5 yrs no question in most areas . If you were running Ga, Fla , Sc and 5-6 other states rgi's charging Scott $45-$50 a lead . Hell in some parts of Indiana leads $39-$43 with rgi . It's very possible Scott's eating some of the rate increases .You drop 1000 generic fe with tlc . I assure you your total return will be much less than 5-10 yrs ago . Chris Etheridge will tell you the same response rates down . He told me 20 years ago he was getting 7-10% returns .

I said "my experience" It is not possible that Scott is eating the cost. I know the sky is falling wherever you go. Apparently it's not where I go. Nor where the other professional FE agents at FEX go. You never hear this kind of whining on our groupme chats nor on our agent calls.

You do hear that kind of whining from agents that were also whining 5 years ago.

 

[jdeasy]

JD, do you confuse your policy holders when you are replacing their policy? You know, just like you're doing in this post.

No, I actually know what I'm doing in the home and have a system and proven track record. No confusion for me there. No confusion for me here either.

Between you and me one of us is definately confused. And it's not me. And the one that is confused is more pretense than anything else. smoke and mirrors is all that one person has. But he was voted "Asshole of the Year" right here at the forums. So he has that.

I may be wrong that you are pretending to be stupid. If you are trying to convince me that you are not pretending, I will say that you are turning the corner. You very well may not be pretending?