But the topic of the thread is that UHC pays itself more than it pays other doctor practices, etc and as a result this thread isn't just about MAP denials (which, of course, saves them money).
UHC Pays Itself More Than Others
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Someone has a reading comprehension deficit . . . and fails to understand how UHC is gaming the system through their "in house" providers.
Referring to claim denials and delays is off topic and has nothing to do with stacking the deck through vertical integration of health care.
Referring to claim denials and delays is off topic and has nothing to do with stacking the deck through vertical integration of health care.
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Capitalism ay... free market and all that.
Not familiar with how this stuff works are you? Are you "not an agent" like the other guy?
Yeah, that person is you. Not every post in this thread is directed at you, or in response to your spam articles. You don't determine the topics to be discussed either.
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Ohhh this is getting fun
Also, I wonder how they conclude that UHC paying it's physicians more results in more profits for UHC?
That math doesn't make sense.
How does paying more for something net them MORE profit? I'm sure if UHC was CHARGING more that would be the headline. But basically we are being asked to believe that UHC paying its subsidiary nets MORE profit?
If I pay 3x as much for a lead because I own the lead company, how does that make my overall business more profitable???
And unfortunately, the rest of the article is behind a paywall. How convenient.
I smell B.S.
That math doesn't make sense.
How does paying more for something net them MORE profit? I'm sure if UHC was CHARGING more that would be the headline. But basically we are being asked to believe that UHC paying its subsidiary nets MORE profit?
If I pay 3x as much for a lead because I own the lead company, how does that make my overall business more profitable???
And unfortunately, the rest of the article is behind a paywall. How convenient.
I smell B.S.
Because of their required financial statements that they have to file each year. Because it is a public company those financial statements are public information, freely available in their required public annual reports.
HOW DOES PAYING MORE FOR SOMETHING RESULT IN HIGHER PROFITS?
If you are talking about the AARP paywall here is a summary of what I see there:
Most of the trash talk I have seen on the forums is medigap rate increases where it is clear people don't understand/remember that there are declining discounts through a certain age and between "normal" increases and their declining discount each year what they personally will pay will climb faster while there are still declining discounts than it will after they have run out of declining discounts. They don't understand community rated risk pools and what that means for when they are older with respect to rates that eventually will be cheaper than age attained or age signed up rates for someone of the same age/signed up at the same age with another company. I don't really see anyone complaining about the actual medigap plans themselves.
The second frustration I see is with, as you state, MAP plans - usually around denials, delays, the problems getting denials overturned in a timely manner... generally those threads are focused on a particular, personal/family member horror story. That, of course is not unique to UHC.
The third frustration I see a lot of is with some of the customer service people, some of whom appear to not be all that well informed and callers don't realize that they can't answer some of the questions, only the agents can but then don't refer them. That, of course is not unique to AARP UHC either.
The article I posted about the billion or so that AARP gets for "royalties for use of it's name" is not behind a paywall. At least it wasn't when I clicked on it initially.
