1 Year Domain Registration for $1

Tons of good points were made since I last checked in. Robert, you brought up some excellent points. Some things mentioned are also a little outdated and would pertain to web development in 2004, we're now approaching 2010.

Own your own domain name, Yes! Hence giving insight to the coupon code for you to use.

And by the way, you did a great service to board readers by bringing the $1.99 domain name up.

Having said that, procrastination is the name of the game. I note that Joe (YouGotThe Money) has still not registered: acmehealthplans.com

Now Joe if that name was just a joke, I didn't get it. I think it is a great domain name and if you are using that as a DBA, then register it fast and use Ray's coupon code.

Hosting your website yourself - doesn't really matter just as long as you get the site files when you pay the final installment on a website. Once I make all the last changes that are requested I put the entire site into a zip file and send it to my client, simple. Now they own it. All of my clients just host through me because for one, I include it free if they subscribe to a maintenance package, and two they have the site files so they could go anywhere they want to at any given time.

Ray, bravo to you for doing business the right way. Everyone take note that Ray has set this out publicly, making him safe to deal with for site development. It makes no sense to purchase web development services from an entity who does not give you ownership of the files or who creates a site for you that relies upon the use of propietary components that are not your's if you terminate the relationship.

On a side note, for those of you who plan to, or who have already invested a lot of time and money into a site, you need to purchase an inexpensive shared server deal with another provider ($60 per year at godaddy) and register the .net and .org variants to your domain name.

Next, I would point the .net to the new shared server, and completely replicate your site on that second server. Make sure that it works exactly the same as it does on your primary server and if possible, you should be the one to upload the files to make the new server look like your main server.

If it won't work ask your developer what the problem is. If he tells you it's because he's doing something exotic that is only supported on his server, and not a more generic less expensive server, then that is bad news. Get it fixed. There is no excuse for web programming code to be non-generic.

I practice what I preach. I have different servers/sites hooked up to these domain names:

compulife.com
compulife.net (currently compulife.org points to his one)
compulife.us
compulife.ca

Each domain name and site looks the same, but in truth they are all independent sites with the same pages on them. If the .com goes down, then we can just tell our customer to go to one of the others. Nothing says redundant like redundant.

RadiusBob, you're exactly right. Hiring a student to do the work is probably not a good idea. My little brother just graduated college with the same degree as me, Business with an emphasis in Information Systems. He took web classes and everything and is extremely talented in art, but I wouldn't want him building an entire site. Although, some students are better than some of these marketing firms that are pumping out crap sites. The odds are just against you. It's like thinking you are going to find a good quality wife off of a craigslist personals ad, highly unlikely. (no offense to those that are currently searching for a wife there)

Ray, got to disagree with you here. Most agents need a very, simple site and students can whip those up just fine.

On the other hand, if you are a significant agency, and trying to move your business dealings with agents more and more to the web, then you are dealing with complicated enough things where what Ray is saying makes sense.

But we are talking about people who think a $1 domain name, rather than the normal $10.99, is big news.

REMEMBER, you started this thread not me. And around my house I am nicknamed ebob because I live and breathe ebay - I hate to pay retail.

So if you are an agent, and don't have a web site, the student is a good solution unless your neighbor does web sites and wants to do your's for free. And all you need is a single page/brochure to get going. WALK before you run.


Ray, I would recommend that you offer that as a low cost, entry point service. As a former life insurance agent, I can tell you that I never looked at a small term life sale as something I wouldn't bother with because most small term sales usually lead to more business in the future. You have to have a low start up point to get them in the door. Why would you not have a simple one to four page package that agents can get super cheap? Look at what State Farm has done for it's agents. I turned up these doing the earlier search of Lexington KY agents:
State Farm Agent Maggie Lee LUTCF -- Lexington,KY (isn't this the one divorcing Tiger?)​
Now this program for agent web sites that State Farm has is just as smart as a whip. I would think independent agents would buy a service like that from someone offering it. Nice clean cookies cutter starting web site deal.

And Ray, I give this advice to you for free, I don't want to be your partner.

Insurance websites are another animal when it comes to web development. Something that is far out of the realm of student web designers.

Look, I am not talking about a site that takes weeks to build. What I am suggesting is the kind of thing that should be wrapped up in a day or two.

When it comes to partner vs. enterprise, I would consider myself a partner. I don't take on new clients just because I want their money, I make their business my business and take it on as if it were my own to help ensure it is successful.

Sorry Roy, talk like that makes me cringe. I occassionally get a reseller of my services who want to call themselves a partner and I have to lay down the law. I don't have partners, and using that word characterizes an image of a type of relationship I don't have or want.

I suspect a lot of other long term business people feel just like I do, most have had partnerships and bad experiences with them, and I don't think you are doing yourself a favor throwing that language around. You'll notice the phone company doesn't.

Making a website shouldn't take months. I can complete a website in a matter of hours given certain conditions.

The point I have been making. We still haven't heard what your hourly rate is.

It should take anywhere from 1-2 weeks, but if it is you that's lagging then yes it can take a couple of months.

Ray, you got to make up your mind here. I think what you are saying is that you rely upon the user for content, and if they have not decided what their content should be, then THEY slow down the process.

Now that's a good point no matter who is doing your site. So, regardless of whether you are hiring a student or high priced help like Ray (tell us your deal, maybe I have to eat my words) you need to know what you want "content" wise before you begin. If you don't have a site, you can start making notes right now and the best way to get content is visit other agent sites for ideas.

I'm on vacation right now and today alone I built two websites. One of which was just an idea from yesterday, woke up, bought the domain, put together the site. All it needs now is the content. If the content is already there, like for site redesigns, then it's usually pretty easy. The hard part sometimes is doing all the little tedious stuff, like 301 redirects for every single page from the old site to correspond to the new site to help preserve search rankings.

All right, now we are talking. Why don't you come up with a simple, 3 to 4 page agent web site idea/deal, slap a one time price of $199 to $299 on it, and make it a special offer to the good folks on this board. Agree you will throw it up on godaddy for them so their ongoing costs are only $60 to $70 per year. That way every agent reading this can have a web site, and won't have any more excuses to not have a web site.

Well websites are no longer just documents online.

They can be and should be if we are talking about agents who don't have sites already, and who would be the target of a thread talking about a $1.99 domain name.

Ray, you can't have this both ways. $1.99 does not apply to anyone who already has a web site unless they are thinking about more of them.

They are web-based applications that are using databases to store content and populate it into a design. Content is supposed to be separate from design. Take LinkedIn for example. Every time someone wants to update their profile do they have to contact the webmaster at the site to make a change? Does them changing the appearance of the site affect your content? The answer is no, and this is how your website should be. The database driven websites I build allow a user to simply create content the same way this form is allowing us to post, and then I do the changes in the core codes when there needs to be additional functionality to the site or changes in the design.

Simple .html web pages are NOT complicated. My favorite web site remains the drudgereport.com and Matt Drudge has stuck with simple, and it hasn't hurt his traffic a bit. You can't tell me that it is that hard to set up an FTP for an individual and teach them how to download and upload pages from their PC.

So... the cost of a website you think is too much. Well if you don't want to spend a lot of money on a website that is pretty much equivalent to a 24/7 store front with a super employee there at all times who can run countless quote requests for you simultaneously, answer frequently asked questions, and take messages for you so they are waiting for you when you return to work all at the same time. Then maybe consider taking that money saved, investing in the development of a time machine so you can go back to a time to compete in the insurance industry without a good website.

There you go again. You are starting with complicated and an agent who doesn't have a site should start simple. If you start doing more and more with your web site, then a guy like Ray and concepts likes these may make sense.

Ray, you have to have a simpler way for a guy to get started. You are trying to put sixteen year old, first time car buyers into new Cadillacs.
 
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I'm on the advisory board at the Institute of Technology. They occasionally refer students to me to help mentor and give them some real life experience. So if someone is looking for a student just let me know and I'll see what I can do.

If I were getting frequently asked what my prices were through private messages I'd be more inclined to come up with a starter site package. So far I haven't had anyone PM me about prices so not really sure if there is even a demand for it. I can go on and on as why I'm not in the market of building low cost sites, but I will do it for a select few.

A new bicycle for Christmas does sound good, so if you want a simple website like this one I made for a friend, davegrigorieff.com, just PM me. So the offer is a basic website for $225 for the first 10 people. I have no idea how many responses I will get so just want to play it safe. This will get you a basic 3 page site -Homepage, Quote Request Page, and whatever else for the 3rd (FAQ's, About). I'll include hosting for the first year and 1 email address at that domain. Needless to say, you're responsible in purchasing your own domain name and providing the content.
 
OK guys, that is NOT a bad deal. If you don't have a site, time to get jumping. And don't forget, if you get Ray paid before the end of the year, you can tax deduct the expense against this years income.

And remember, at the very worst, your renewal next year will be hosting only, and if Ray is too expensive you can take what he did for you over to godaddy for about $60 pear year. So $225 first year, $60 per year after that. Can you beat it - not likely. So get moving.

There is NO EXCUSE to not have a web site.

Ray, let us know how many jumped on board.
 
Jim, why are you so obsessed with Dwayne? You've been here about a month and about half of your posts are about a guy on a forum. It's time to start adding to the board instead of joining fights that you really don't have anything to do with. It seems like Dwayne and Frank are fine with eachother.
 
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