AARP "GI" Underwritten by NYL

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Hey guys, I'm in IL. Met with a lady who wants to take out a small FE policy. She's T65, but has a host of medical issues, not the least of which is Congestive Heart Failure. Also COPD, Diabetes w/insulin, HBP, overweight and several hospitalizations in the last couple of years.

She's obviously not going to get any kind of normal life insurance. Modified, if she can get anything. She realizes this, of course.

She showed me a mailing from AARP for a Guaranteed Issue policy underwritten through New York Life. The rate was I *think*, in the $60s for 10K. Wish I got a copy of it, because I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think that's close enough.

At any rate, is that a true GI? I was speaking with Forester's and thought I could get her a policy with them, until they mentioned Oxygen. And yes, she takes oxygen, but not all the time. Saw it sitting in the house, I know it's not her husband's.

I'm going to be getting contracted with NGL, Presidential, and United Home Life. I can get her NGL, but it's about $115 a month and she really wants to keep it under a hundred.

Any hope for this lady? I'm hoping she's patient enough to wait until I can find her something that'll be a good fit. If not, so be it. I figure even if I do all this research, and she goes with something else or with someone else, it'll be a learning experience since I'm so danged new at this.

One of the reasons I ask about the AARP is that I heard that it's not truly a Guaranteed Issue, and that it's more expensive than it advertises.... and that only AARP agents can sell it, us independents cannot.


I'm so new at this, btw that I've never sold an FE product. haha, so that's why the silly questions. :1confused:
 
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Hey guys, I'm in IL. Met with a lady who wants to take out a small FE policy. She's T65, but has a host of medical issues, not the least of which is Congestive Heart Failure. Also COPD, Diabetes w/insulin, HBP, overweight and several hospitalizations in the last couple of years.

She's obviously not going to get any kind of normal life insurance. Modified, if she can get anything. She realizes this, of course.

She showed me a mailing from AARP for a Guaranteed Issue policy underwritten through New York Life. The rate was I *think*, in the $60s for 10K. Wish I got a copy of it, because I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think that's close enough.

At any rate, is that a true GI? I was speaking with Forester's and thought I could get her a policy with them, until they mentioned Oxygen. And yes, she takes oxygen, but not all the time. Saw it sitting in the house, I know it's not her husband's.

I'm going to be getting contracted with NGL, Presidential, and United Home Life. I can get her NGL, but it's about $115 a month and she really wants to keep it under a hundred.

Any hope for this lady? I'm hoping she's patient enough to wait until I can find her something that'll be a good fit. If not, so be it. I figure even if I do all this research, and she goes with something else or with someone else, it'll be a learning experience since I'm so danged new at this.

One of the reasons I ask about the AARP is that I heard that it's not truly a Guaranteed Issue, and that it's more expensive than it advertises.... and that only AARP agents can sell it, us independents cannot.


I'm so new at this, btw that I've never sold an FE product. haha, so that's why the silly questions. :1confused:

refer her to United of Omaha (mutual of omaha) they are a true G.I. plan and probably what is best for her.
 
Mutual of Omaha? I am contracted with them for Med Supps, wonder if that extends to FE? I'll have to do a little research.....
 
Mutual of Omaha? I am contracted with them for Med Supps, wonder if that extends to FE? I'll have to do a little research.....

Their product on a GI basis is a captive only product and usually sold through the mail or over the phone. You cannot sell them. If you could, there would be lots of folks doing it. Vantis is also a true G.I. as well, but it may take a little time to get contracted.
 
The AARP policy is a bad choice. It's not a guaranteed rate. EVER.

The MOO or Vantis are good choices.
 
This is one case where AARP would be fine. Do you really think she will live to age 80? , but the best choice would be MOO GI policy.
 
This is one case where AARP would be fine. Do you really think she will live to age 80? , but the best choice would be MOO GI policy.


There's NEVER a case where AARP "would be fine" in my opinion....rather you're sure she'll live to 80 or not. At 70 she would have a rate increase....99.9% of ppl on a fixed income would not want that. Why would u ever recommend a term policy to a senior, not even counting the fact it goes up ever 5yrs...u never know how long a person will live!
 
The GI version of AARP/ NYL is not term and it doesn't have any scheduled rate increases. They just leave a loophole so they could raise the rate anytime they want to.

No I wouldn't trust AARP OR NYL to ever do right by seniors. They have done too much wrong.
 
Hey guys, I'm in IL. Met with a lady who wants to take out a small FE policy. She's T65, but has a host of medical issues, not the least of which is Congestive Heart Failure. Also COPD, Diabetes w/insulin, HBP, overweight and several hospitalizations in the last couple of years.

She's obviously not going to get any kind of normal life insurance. Modified, if she can get anything. She realizes this, of course.

She showed me a mailing from AARP for a Guaranteed Issue policy underwritten through New York Life. The rate was I *think*, in the $60s for 10K. Wish I got a copy of it, because I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think that's close enough.

At any rate, is that a true GI? I was speaking with Forester's and thought I could get her a policy with them, until they mentioned Oxygen. And yes, she takes oxygen, but not all the time. Saw it sitting in the house, I know it's not her husband's.

I'm going to be getting contracted with NGL, Presidential, and United Home Life. I can get her NGL, but it's about $115 a month and she really wants to keep it under a hundred.

Any hope for this lady? I'm hoping she's patient enough to wait until I can find her something that'll be a good fit. If not, so be it. I figure even if I do all this research, and she goes with something else or with someone else, it'll be a learning experience since I'm so danged new at this.

One of the reasons I ask about the AARP is that I heard that it's not truly a Guaranteed Issue, and that it's more expensive than it advertises.... and that only AARP agents can sell it, us independents cannot.


I'm so new at this, btw that I've never sold an FE product. haha, so that's why the silly questions. :1confused:

This is not their term policy. It is a an UL. The rate for a 65 year female for $10,000 is $62.02/mo. It goes to$75.24 at 70. It goes to $91.08 at 75 and to $95.69 at age 80. They don't illustrate after 80.

They can also raise the rates at anytime as long as they raise them on everyone in the class.
 
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