Accumulation Focus-BCA,Nationwide,America I.e. Legacy, AIG?? What Are You Guys Using?

May 11, 2016

  1. AOKING
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    Just wondering what you opinion is for the strongest accumulation product on the market.......to add to the above produc ts- forethought Blackrock index, tryvstA?

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    AO
     
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    Athene Performance Elite.
     
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    Hey Tahoe,

    What was that FMO you have a relationship with that specializes in premium finance?

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    AO
     
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    2nd the Performance Elite

    PAR's over 100% on the BNP Paribas Index
     
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    as of TODAY, I like BCA and Nationwide (JPM Mozaic) :)
     
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    Athene is killing it right now
     
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    I have a couple that I refer to but if you're talking about the agent that does split cases, let me know and I'll pm you his number.
     
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    Choice 10 from AEI deserves mention for sure. No discussion of a proprietary index....Goes a long way
     
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    Curious Tahoe, why do you like this better than Athene's Ascent Pro? It looked to me like the index strategies may be superior in the Ascent Pro series....Am I incorrect on that?

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    AO

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    What Index strategy are you using with the Choice 10?

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    AO
     
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    Not to speak for Tahoe but I'll take a stab at both questions to give my opinion.

    Ascent is a great short term offering. If a client can stretch to a 10 or even 15 year surrender you have to remember you're also getting a premium bonus to start. The 5 and 7 year Ascent do not have a bonus.

    This Friday (hopefully you're FMOs have you up to date) Athene is making another rate change on the Ascent line. The income account bonus is going down to 5% and caps/spreads are coming down/going up. Annual point to point will be 4.25% on the 7 year Ascent which effectively put it at the same cap as performance Elite, BUT performance Elite has that bonus. Actual indexing options available are the same.

    Choice 10 I always use the participation on the SP500. However, I should mention AEI is about to drop that to 40% from 45% very soon.

    Rates keep going down down down:err:
     
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