Coverage during protests, police brutality, wrongful deaths

[Markthebroker]

Hmm

Crime down?

How come sop many of these lately
Rhode Island girl, 9, snatched getting off school bus, terrifying video shows


As the United States struggles to contain the coronavirus pandemic and attendant economic disruption, another problem may be looming – murder rates have risen in many of America’s largest cities.

Murders are up by double-digit percentages in cities across America, including New York, Philadelphia and Chicago, according to crime statistics, while some smaller cities like Charlotte, North Carolina, and Jacksonville, Florida, have also seen significant increases.

Rates of homicide and gun assault began to increase in late May, according to data from the National Commission on Covid-19 and Criminal Justice, and while the murder rate is still low compared with previous decades, the evidence is clear: the situation is worsening.

Last year was particularly low for murder, but even compared with the last five years, 2020 has seen a serious increase.

“Overall it is pretty unquestionable that there is more violence, we’re hearing that anecdotally and it’s certainly what the data is showing too,” said Charles Ransford, senior director of science and policy, at Cure Violence Global, an organization which trains outreach workers to intervene and mediate conflict in communities which have a high rate of violence.

Homicides rise across US cities amid pandemic and economic crisis

Violent crime stats and trends during the pandemic:

• Preliminary FBI data for the first six months of 2020 shows murder and non-negligent homicide as up nearly 15% compared to the same time period last year.
• A report by the Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ) paints an even more dire picture—showing a 53% jump in homicides in 27 major US cities this summer, compared to the last.
• FBI data also shows a 4.6% jump in aggravated assaults between January and June 2020, versus the same period in 2019.
• Aggravated assault rose 14% summer over summer, according to the CCJ analysis.
• Gun violence has been relentless for much of 2020, particularly in major cities like Chicago, New York City, and Philadelphia.
• As of September 28, the Gun Violence Archive (GVA) has recorded 13,641 homicides, murders, and unintentional gun-related deaths for 2020. That’s almost 90% of the total recorded for all of 2019.
• Crime and the Coronavirus: What You Need to Know | SafeWise

Besides that you have a lot of looting and such that is not always accounted for in the categories they have

In addition, you have a lot of unreported events especially from buis that were not going to recover from covid anyway

I spoke to a client in IL said (just 2 months ago) she can't go to CVS because looters burned it down and the streets were too dangerous to go farther because they were all outside harassing people

How much harassing went unreported as well

No way this is a better crime year

Violent crime has been declining nationally for years

Or you can say just because crime has increased this year

does not mean it didn't decline for several years prior which it has

and vica versa that does not take away from the fact that it is up this year

Also not to take away from the fact that a large amount of crime this year is under-reported for a number of reasons and therefore not accounted for accurately

Make no mistake about it many have reason to fear and have personally expere=ienced more crime

Yeah, I know crime has been declining nationally for decades. I know it's always spiking in certain areas at any given time. I didn't know if it's been going up recently nationally or not, but of course reporting, or lack thereof can factor into that.

This isn't a loaded question, I'm actually asking because I haven't looked it up yet.

Are we up on total violent crime in the last 5 years, or down? I'm not just asking one type of crime or another, but total violent crime.

What about 10 years?

Again, not a loaded question or challenging you, I'm just curious.

 

[vic120]

Violent crime has been declining nationally for years


Yeah, I know crime has been declining nationally for decades. I know it's always spiking in certain areas at any given time. I didn't know if it's been going up recently nationally or not, but of course reporting, or lack thereof can factor into that.

This isn't a loaded question, I'm actually asking because I haven't looked it up yet.

Are we up on total violent crime in the last 5 years, or down? I'm not just asking one type of crime or another, but total violent crime.

What about 10 years?

Again, not a loaded question or challenging you, I'm just curious.

Taking this year out of consideration, I know a crime was down over the last 5 years

Crime this year has been insane I have seen more brazen violence train attacks midday a lot of mid day abductions and so forth

Yes the type of crime matters its the type of seriousness and type of unsafety that people feel

Moreover, what fo you think happens when during a protest 50 store get looted (including 200 plus items each store by 50 people each store ) 80 get damaged, 10 cars get damaged, 30 people assaulted, 20 individuals robed, 50 officers hit with projectiles, 100 drivers get harassed, 50 diners get harassed

Do they all get logged as individual crimes? I am sure some do but many don't

Moreover, how do you think it gets reported in states that have lib gov that side with the protestors?

I am willing to bet there were days or at least weeks that were as bad as all of last year in some places if it were reported accurately

In addition, there was that big push this year to decriminalize lower crimes, and cut police and a stand-down attitude will also show less then what's really happening

 

[Markthebroker]

Taking this year out of consideration, I know a crime was down over the last 5 years

Crime this year has been insane I have seen more brazen violence train attacks midday a lot of mid day abductions and so forth

Yes the type of crime matters its the type of seriousness and type of unsafety that people feel

Moreover, what fo you think happens when during a protest 50 store get looted (including 200 plus items each store by 50 people each store ) 80 get damaged, 10 cars get damaged, 30 people assaulted, 20 individuals robed, 50 officers hit with projectiles, 100 drivers get harassed, 50 diners get harassed

Do they all get logged as individual crimes? I am sure some do but many don't

Moreover, how do you think it gets reported in states that have lib gov that side with the protestors?

I am willing to bet there were days or at least weeks that were as bad as all of last year in some places if it were reported accurately

In addition, there was that big push this year to decriminalize lower crimes, and cut police and a stand-down attitude will also show less then what's really happening

While the country overall has seen a very encouraging slide in violent crime over the decades, things have gone pretty sideways the last few months. The amount of news (or fear porn, as it usually is) people watch is increasing, and many people find echo chambers to reflect their feelings on websites or social media, which makes the division and drama worse. In some cases and some situations I think cutting police response could be good, but overall it's a bad idea and won't go well.

Though we probably won't get there, I think we are heading towards a civil war or revolution. What do you think?

 

[vic120]

While the country overall has seen a very encouraging slide in violent crime over the decades, things have gone pretty sideways the last few months. The amount of news (or fear porn, as it usually is) people watch is increasing, and many people find echo chambers to reflect their feelings on websites or social media, which makes the division and drama worse. In some cases and some situations I think cutting police response could be good, but overall it's a bad idea and won't go well.

Though we probably won't get there, I think we are heading towards a civil war or revolution. What do you think?

Probably inevitable

Just arrested 6 people part of a militia wanted to abduct Witmer

Skinhead membership is starting to go way up. BLM membership is way up all the crazy memberships are up gun sales are up

Everyone is angry

The indoctrination is flying everywhere

The Govt is insane

And the people are running after every shiny Elixer, quick fix or an easy way out, Which there is none but plenty that are trying to sell some sneak oil propaganda for every situation

No easy fix but no one wants to be the one to say if we are to heal it will hurt for all Not just the other guys as they are all selling

Besides that, the young are so indoctrinated they will eventually have their socialist govt eventually, though it won't be what they expect

that will be the day reality sets in

 

[Markthebroker]

Probably inevitable

Just arrested 6 people part of a militia wanted to abduct Witmer

Skinhead membership is starting to go way up. BLM membership is way up all the crazy memberships are up gun sales are up

Everyone is angry

The indoctrination is flying everywhere

The Govt is insane

And the people are running after every shiny Elixer, quick fix or an easy way out, Which there is none but plenty that are trying to sell some sneak oil propaganda for every situation

No easy fix but no one wants to be the one to say if we are to heal it will hurt for all Not just the other guys as they are all selling

Besides that, the young are so indoctrinated they will eventually have their socialist govt eventually, though it won't be what they expect

that will be the day reality sets in

I agree with a lot of this, but I disagree we will end up in a sort of war.

We can both agree on one thing, though. We're sure as hell going to find out soon.

 

[rousemark]

Besides that, the young are so indoctrinated they will eventually have their socialist govt eventually, though it won't be what they expect

that will be the day reality sets in

The problem is when they get it, if they decide it is not what they wanted, it is almost impossible to get rid of it.

 

[vic120]

The problem is when they get it, if they decide it is not what they wanted, it is almost impossible to get rid of it.

No Almost Its too late

You cant go back period Until there is another collapse

 

[rousemark]

No Almost Its too late

You cant go back period Until there is another collapse

Even after a total collapse it is hard to rid the nation of it once it has been instituted.. Look at Cuba..

 

[vic120]

Even after a total collapse it is hard to rid the nation of it once it has been instituted.. Look at Cuba..

or Venezuela

 

[Markthebroker]

or Venezuela

Venezuela is all about equality. Everyone has equal opportunity: to starve to death.