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@shonceman I don't think what happened on the 6th fits what many folks would imagine is an insurrection, especially not what we read in history books or see in movies.

However, stop looking at it from a "letter of the law" perspective and look at the "spirit." The motivation, inspiration, or spirit behind what happened is an insurrection. It's what led to that behavior.

So while yes, it did not look plan and it looked like a bunch of unhinged (Q annon Shaman) "Mildreds and their sons" (as someone else put it) type folks, it was still an insurrection.

Its no different than one man planning an Oceans Eleven type bank robbery vs. another guy walking in with his hand in his pocket and a bad wig pretending he has a gun and asking for money. Both scenarios are motivated by thievery.


The same could be said about the BLM with as much as they said about taking down capitalism and the violence in the protests, I mean yes there are many that don't know or don't care and feel they can support for equal rights, And we could talk about that as we have

However, it was larger and spread in well more area and it was a lot more than one instance

Besides that their demand list all the pressure points that all the anti-capitalism groups have as targets specifically aimed at income redistribution, Taking down law and order, Creating special class, and more

Could, even more, classify the BLM actions as insurrection and most certainly Antifa Much much more

Yet you don't here that much especially will never hear it on the left at all
 
First, I don't watch Fox, OANN, or Newsmax. If you want to discuss things, great, but don't assume our disagreements are due to you having better sources than I do.

Second, militias ARE typically comprised of a heavy dose of veterans. They spend an awful lot of time preparing for what they consider "big" moments. And while there were signs that some people appeared to be acting in coordination, that is not true of the MAJORITY of the people who were outside and inside the capitol. It was MOSTLY dumbasses who got caught up in the moment, which is almost always true of riots.

Then that means you know who's being arrested. So why are you asking him to do all the research?:tongue:

As far as militias being comprised heavily of veterans, I hear ya. These ain't exactly a buncha John Rambo's here though. I mean, when I was a kid, I used to see the 60 Minutes clips on the Michigan Militia and oath keepers and all that, and I was scared. Now that I'm an adult, I realize if you replace the real guns in their hands with paintball guns while their doing all their spiffy little drills, it looks no different than the TV commercials advertising buy two rounds, get one free" at the paintball range.

Vet or not, most of these militias are comprised of out of shape gun hoarders who want to live out a video game fantasy. Sure, there are a few zealots sprinkled in there willing to die for cause. Most, though, just want to hang out with dudes who hate the people they hate and like to play with guns.

These militias would get slaughtered all the same by the National Guard. They fit the very same element of these Capitol dumbasses: They are flippin' Captain John Price while playing their war games, but they still have to go back to work when the weekend is over.

That's why the thought of the fact that there's no respawning like in video games never occurred to them until now.

Most vets aren't war machines. Everyone isn't an operator. Hell, the veteran who was dumb enough to climb through through the window at gunpoint never thought she was going to be shot and killed for not following commands from the Secret Service officer who had her at gunpoint. Toppling a government requires total buy in. You don't get to go back to your same life afterward, and there are no respawns.

Now that they've had to reconcile with that, you see what the turnout looked like yesterday at the state capitols they planned to storm.


Nothing I disagree with here. I also don't think people like him (and there are a healthy dose of young people who fit the category on both sides) care a bit about any "cause". They want to feel like they're a part of something and they want attention. They often get other people hurt and they don't care. It's both creepy and sad.

Yeah, dude is in it for likes, shares, and retweets. Just an asshole. I put him in the same boat as the MAGATS. A BAGAT, if you will. :cute:


Yes. That's how stupid our world is now.

But, as bad as it feels to defend these idiots, I can't ignore the fact that most (if not all) of them really do believe that the election was stolen illegally. In their heads, they were defending democracy. I don't think that should earn them any leeway in a courtroom (though some may have a legitimate insanity defense), but empathy is something I work on as I get older, and I can't overlook that.

I feel the same way about most of the leftist rioters. They're wrong/manipulated/crazy (and in some cases evil, but I'm ignoring those here), but if I believed to be factually true the things that they do I can't say I wouldn't be of similar sentiment.

So, here's where it starts getting a bit murky. Leftist rioters didn't try to upend democracy like these fools...the MAGAT definition of democracy has proven to be "we only care about it if it's our way," You know...like Blue Lives Matter.

I have a problem with this bothsiding of the issue because it looks over the original reason why there are people marching in the streets to begin with, regardless of what happened at the end of the protesting.

One group's general purpose for being out there was to address police brutality, the other group was out to overturn an election because their guy didn't win. They weren't trying to defend democracy at all. If they were, they'd consider talking to some of the 81 million people who voted for Biden to see why they did it. Let's stop making excuses for them.

If people on both sides don't stop using dehumanizing language (Like MAGAT's) when talking about their political opposition there is absolutely no way the country survives. None. We got away with it for a long time, but we're at the point where if we don't make a SERIOUS effort to humanize each other our children are going to grow up in a world of constant bloodshed, bitterness and economic despair. And the more we do it, the more those who seek power will see divisiveness as the path. We HAVE to be better than that, it's literally life and death.

To hell with them. They tried to overturn the government because their guy didn't win. You know how I'm educating my child to deal with them? I bought her a Glock 9MM and a shitton of hollow tips. First of a few more to come. That's on top of a childhood of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, and boxing. No need to humanize with that element once it's gone feral.

The only way to handle bullies is time tested and proven....stand up to them. THEY have to be better than that. Not me. I was chillin', mindin' my own business trying to push some Medicare plans, helpin' white, black, and Latino seniors alike. Now I gotta keep buying more Eastern European hardware just in case they wanna get stupid in my Central Florida suburbs, lol.

Now, do I know reasonable people that voted for Trump? Yes, I do. However, my appeal to their reason is that when you look to the right and left of you, and you see a guy who hates Jews, and not too far from him is a guy who hates gay people...is that the side you really want to be on? For stocks? Or for fiscal responsibility or whatever bullshit reason you're telling yourself? I'm a registered independent. Always have been, but there's no way in the hell I'm going to justify voting for the guy who needs the racist vote to win.

I usually let it go at that. It's weird, I have Republican friends that will help minorities out on an individual basis. They just don't want the government telling them where they HAVE to spend their money helping minorities. I can actually get behind that a bit, as I'm selective with the minorities I help out too! :biggrin:

I feel what they need to understand is that it's going too far when you have a guy in the Oval Office who brings out the white supremacist bloc in an unprecedented manner. Then he sets its sights on the government and it goes and attempts to murder the VP and prominent democrats.

At some point, you just can't have it both ways. Do I think they are some generally good people who voted for Trump? Sure I do. Do I think they have good reasons for doing so? Sure I don't. That's politics. This Trump thing overall is deeper than that, though.

Thing is, I don't believe my child is going to grow up in a world of constant bloodshed, bitterness, and despair. This is the Call of Duty Modern Warfare generation. Most of these people like the thought of war and playing war games until someone returns enough fire. Hell, most of the rioters are begging for a pardon because they thought this was just something they could do because...what?

The last thing we need to do is try to keep legitimizing this monkey shit. There will be some dark days immediately ahead, probably. However, the way to handle it is to confront hate, not attempt to humanize it. Attempting to continue to humanize it will only make it drag out further.

By the way, I know I can get a bit colorful when posting, and I don't mean to insult you if it's coming across that way. I do appreciate you being willing to keep coming back to have discourse on the topic. If it were just me, Toolbelt, and Door Knocker Lover Daytimer in here, it would get boring fast. Kind of like Bizarro Parlor. :wacko:
 
Oh, and just in case I need to state it...I'm not for black supremacists either. They are just as ridiculous. The thing I try to get people to understand though, is that black people, as a whole, are only 9% of this country at best. Most black people realize that we can't be successful in this country without allies of different races. Even if we were all Wakandans...we simply don't have the numbers, lol.

That's why I hate that a few opportunists have hijacked the BLM thing and started all these chapters with ridiculous demands. It creates the perfect scenario for "See, look at them too!"

However, there's no reason to both sides that as they simply aren't the threat that white supremacists are overall on a widescale level. Most black people aren't throwing their lot behind the "Black people need their own laws, courts, country" crap I saw on one BLM chapter's website. Most of those goons just hijacked the movement to 'feel as if they are a part of something' to borrow from whatyouwantfinally.
 
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Could, even more, classify the BLM actions as insurrection and most certainly Antifa Much much more

I dont know if I would agree about BLM being more insurrectionist. I guess it depends on what standard one would use to determine which of the two were more insurrectionist.

However, I will agree that the same can be said about BLM as an organization ( not the folks wearing the shirts or just saying the chant or peacefully protesting).

Yet you don't here that much especially will never hear it on the left at all
I definitely would not say at all as i have shown you many articles where folks have spoken out. To determine who speaks out more against their own party is left up to debate.

Many GOP folks are now speaking out about Trump as though he just became this way on the 6th. I honestly think neither side speaks out enough about their own when they are wrong.
 
Then that means you know who's being arrested. So why are you asking him to do all the research?:tongue:

I'm not asking anyone to provide things I already know. He said that the plan was to kill Pelosi and Pence, that Trump was at the top of the planning and militias were the force behind it. The fact that a militia-affiliated guy was arrested and and handful of people were seen with two-way radios is far from establishing that, so I asked if there was additional evidence that led him to that conclusion.

As far as militias being comprised heavily of veterans, I hear ya. These ain't exactly a buncha John Rambo's here though. I mean, when I was a kid, I used to see the 60 Minutes clips on the Michigan Militia and oath keepers and all that, and I was scared. Now that I'm an adult, I realize if you replace the real guns in their hands with paintball guns while their doing all their spiffy little drills, it looks no different than the TV commercials advertising buy two rounds, get one free" at the paintball range.

I don't mean to take away your comfort, but that just isn't true.

Vet or not, most of these militias are comprised of out of shape gun hoarders who want to live out a video game fantasy. Sure, there are a few zealots sprinkled in there willing to die for cause. Most, though, just want to hang out with dudes who hate the people they hate and like to play with guns.

Again, not true. These aren't video gamer kids.

These militias would get slaughtered all the same by the National Guard. They fit the very same element of these Capitol dumbasses: They are flippin' Captain John Price while playing their war games, but they still have to go back to work when the weekend is over.

If you think their plans are likely to involve lining up in the street and having a gun fight with the military, again, you're wrong. They don't have to be a threat to win a literal war against the military/Nat Guard to be an incredibly serious threat.

That's why the thought of the fact that there's no respawning like in video games never occurred to them until now.

Again, these aren't people who grew up playing video games. They know better than most what the outcomes of real violence are.

Most vets aren't war machines. Everyone isn't an operator. Hell, the veteran who was dumb enough to climb through through the window at gunpoint never thought she was going to be shot and killed for not following commands from the Secret Service officer who had her at gunpoint. Toppling a government requires total buy in. You don't get to go back to your same life afterward, and there are no respawns.
Now that they've had to reconcile with that, you see what the turnout looked like yesterday at the state capitols they planned to storm.

You don't have topple a government to pull off incredibly destructive, terrifying things.

So, here's where it starts getting a bit murky. Leftist rioters didn't try to upend democracy like these fools...the MAGAT definition of democracy has proven to be "we only care about it if it's our way," You know...like Blue Lives Matter.

You're either missing or ignoring the fact that these people really DO think the election was stolen nefariously. They really do believe they were trying to STOP democracy from being upended. They're wrong, and their method of "fighting back" was ridiculous, but that's not the point.

If Trump had "won" the election, and you were sure he did it by illegally switching votes (or whatever illegal method), and there was an attempt by people to rise up and stop it, I'm confident you'd at least think their hearts were in the right place.

I have a problem with this bothsiding of the issue because it looks over the original reason why there are people marching in the streets to begin with, regardless of what happened at the end of the protesting.

One group's general purpose for being out there was to address police brutality, the other group was out to overturn an election because their guy didn't win. They weren't trying to defend democracy at all. If they were, they'd consider talking to some of the 81 million people who voted for Biden to see why they did it. Let's stop making excuses for them.

First, see what I said above.

I can just as easily say most of this group's "purpose" is based on a falsehood; that black people live their lives under the legitimate threat of being killed by the police. There is no more proof of this than there is of the election being stolen.

It would be wrong for me ignore the fact that they really DO believe this and conclude they really just want communism, or really just are black supremacists. Just like it's wrong for you to conclude the others were just "out to overturn an election because their guy didn't win."

That's why everyone is talking past each other, pointing their fingers at each other saying "hypocrite." We're dealing with disagreements about facts that are being mistaken for disagreements about values/morality.

Most people on the left would support an uprising against someone trying to illegally take over our government and most on the right would support an uprising against police killing black people due to race. Both sides just believe the other's contention is false.

To hell with them. They tried to overturn the government because their guy didn't win. You know how I'm educating my child to deal with them? I bought her a Glock 9MM and a shitton of hollow tips. First of a few more to come. That's on top of a childhood of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, and boxing. No need to humanize with that element once it's gone feral.

And gun sales have been through the roof, as are self-defense related things of all kinds, largely due to people feeling the same way about BLM rioters. It ain't pretty.

Gotta say, good parenting though. Defense aside, involvement in things like that are SO valuable for young people.

The only way to handle bullies is time tested and proven....stand up to them.

Do you feel that way about ALL bullies?

THEY have to be better than that. Not me. I was chillin', mindin' my own business trying to push some Medicare plans, helpin' white, black, and Latino seniors alike. Now I gotta keep buying more Eastern European hardware just in case they wanna get stupid in my Central Florida suburbs, lol.

This could literally be a quote from a business owner regarding BLM.

Now, do I know reasonable people that voted for Trump? Yes, I do. However, my appeal to their reason is that when you look to the right and left of you, and you see a guy who hates Jews, and not too far from him is a guy who hates gay people...is that the side you really want to be on?

LOL, I could ask you the same question. I take it you're not unaware that their is antisemitism on the left, and that support for gay marriage among African Americans and Republicans is pretty much the same?

For stocks? Or for fiscal responsibility or whatever bullshit reason you're telling yourself? I'm a registered independent. Always have been, but there's no way in the hell I'm going to justify voting for the guy who needs the racist vote to win.

I'm an independent too, but there's no way in hell I'm going to vote for the side that NEEDS to sew racial tensions to win.

I feel what they need to understand is that it's going too far when you have a guy in the Oval Office who brings out the white supremacist bloc in an unprecedented manner. Then he sets its sights on the government and it goes and attempts to murder the VP and prominent democrats.

It wasn't the "white supremacist bloc." There were obviously a small number of people who definitely fit that description, but that's the same as calling a BLM riot a "black supremacist block" because there were a few people yelling about melanin. What happened on the 6th was not a bunch of people fighting for white supremacy.

Thing is, I don't believe my child is going to grow up in a world of constant bloodshed, bitterness, and despair. This is the Call of Duty Modern Warfare generation. Most of these people like the thought of war and playing war games until someone returns enough fire. Hell, most of the rioters are begging for a pardon because they thought this was just something they could do because...what?

Even in countries with actual civil wars and revolutions going on, "most" people stay the hell out of it. It doesn't require everyone having the stomach for actual battle to completely de-stabilize a nation.

The last thing we need to do is try to keep legitimizing this monkey shit. There will be some dark days immediately ahead, probably. However, the way to handle it is to confront hate, not attempt to humanize it. Attempting to continue to humanize it will only make it drag out further.

THE biggest problem is that the amount of "hate" is, for political reasons, entirely overblown. Like I said, factual disagreements are disguised as moral ones. Until we're all (at least mostly) living in the same factual reality, no progress is even possible.

By the way, I know I can get a bit colorful when posting, and I don't mean to insult you if it's coming across that way. I do appreciate you being willing to keep coming back to have discourse on the topic. If it were just me, Toolbelt, and Door Knocker Lover Daytimer in here, it would get boring fast. Kind of like Bizarro Parlor. :wacko:

You're not coming across that way and I hope I'm not either. I appreciate the discourse too.
 
I'm not asking anyone to provide things I already know. He said that the plan was to kill Pelosi and Pence, that Trump was at the top of the planning and militias were the force behind it. The fact that a militia-affiliated guy was arrested and and handful of people were seen with two-way radios is far from establishing that, so I asked if there was additional evidence that led him to that conclusion.



I don't mean to take away your comfort, but that just isn't true.



Again, not true. These aren't video gamer kids.



If you think their plans are likely to involve lining up in the street and having a gun fight with the military, again, you're wrong. They don't have to be a threat to win a literal war against the military/Nat Guard to be an incredibly serious threat.



Again, these aren't people who grew up playing video games. They know better than most what the outcomes of real violence are.



You don't have topple a government to pull off incredibly destructive, terrifying things.



You're either missing or ignoring the fact that these people really DO think the election was stolen nefariously. They really do believe they were trying to STOP democracy from being upended. They're wrong, and their method of "fighting back" was ridiculous, but that's not the point.

If Trump had "won" the election, and you were sure he did it by illegally switching votes (or whatever illegal method), and there was an attempt by people to rise up and stop it, I'm confident you'd at least think their hearts were in the right place.



First, see what I said above.

I can just as easily say most of this group's "purpose" is based on a falsehood; that black people live their lives under the legitimate threat of being killed by the police. There is no more proof of this than there is of the election being stolen.

It would be wrong for me ignore the fact that they really DO believe this and conclude they really just want communism, or really just are black supremacists. Just like it's wrong for you to conclude the others were just "out to overturn an election because their guy didn't win."

That's why everyone is talking past each other, pointing their fingers at each other saying "hypocrite." We're dealing with disagreements about facts that are being mistaken for disagreements about values/morality.

Most people on the left would support an uprising against someone trying to illegally take over our government and most on the right would support an uprising against police killing black people due to race. Both sides just believe the other's contention is false.



And gun sales have been through the roof, as are self-defense related things of all kinds, largely due to people feeling the same way about BLM rioters. It ain't pretty.

Gotta say, good parenting though. Defense aside, involvement in things like that are SO valuable for young people.



Do you feel that way about ALL bullies?



This could literally be a quote from a business owner regarding BLM.



LOL, I could ask you the same question. I take it you're not unaware that their is antisemitism on the left, and that support for gay marriage among African Americans and Republicans is pretty much the same?



I'm an independent too, but there's no way in hell I'm going to vote for the side that NEEDS to sew racial tensions to win.



It wasn't the "white supremacist bloc." There were obviously a small number of people who definitely fit that description, but that's the same as calling a BLM riot a "black supremacist block" because there were a few people yelling about melanin. What happened on the 6th was not a bunch of people fighting for white supremacy.



Even in countries with actual civil wars and revolutions going on, "most" people stay the hell out of it. It doesn't require everyone having the stomach for actual battle to completely de-stabilize a nation.



THE biggest problem is that the amount of "hate" is, for political reasons, entirely overblown. Like I said, factual disagreements are disguised as moral ones. Until we're all (at least mostly) living in the same factual reality, no progress is even possible.



You're not coming across that way and I hope I'm not either. I appreciate the discourse too.

To save us a lot of time, let me sum it up like this:

I want you and your family to be prosperous, and I want the same on my end. I just don't like bullies, white, black, purple, you name it. I don't advocate violence, but when a bully refuses to stand down, you end up left with two choices: stand up for yourself or plan to be treated the same way over and over.

Also, I did some reading...I had the wrong idea about the Oath Keepers. Their bylaws strictly state that they don't believe in racism, and there are documented action of them being true to that. Now, I definitely believe they are dangerous, but being anti government and being racist aren't the same thing. I don't believe in making assumptions of groups of people, so let me walk back what I said earlier in regards to them. I was offbase, they are quite a complex group.

This was a fascinating read:

The Oath Keeper Who Wants to Arm Black Lives Matter

Thing is, I can see the argument in the article from both sides. I get why the guy wanted to have the armed protest in Ferguson, but I also get why they top people shot it down.

I'm not saying I'm wishing I could sign up, lol, but I am saying it is worth taking some time to research groups before putting my foot in my mouth and speaking on them.

As far as the Capitol is concerned, I will say that times like this make me miss the days of three TV stations plus public TV.
 
Again, not true. These aren't video gamer kids.
Yet weekend warriors, like gamers, don't have to worry about targets shooting back. More than likely, half these "insurrectionists" likely just went nuts on the Amazon "military webbing" page. Some are singing like canaries right now, and one is bitching for organic food.
 
I dont know if I would agree about BLM being more insurrectionist. I guess it depends on what standard one would use to determine which of the two were more insurrectionist.

However, I will agree that the same can be said about BLM as an organization ( not the folks wearing the shirts or just saying the chant or peacefully protesting).


I definitely would not say at all as i have shown you many articles where folks have spoken out. To determine who speaks out more against their own party is left up to debate.

Many GOP folks are now speaking out about Trump as though he just became this way on the 6th. I honestly think neither side speaks out enough about their own when they are wrong.


Here is the thing though The Left is not acting anywhere in the same universe they did during the summer violence in fact they mostly celebrated it but now are full of holy justified anger and in dangerous ways

They show their true intentions as of late more and more

Here is the latest
r Katie Couric became the latest left-wing figure to call for Republicans to be “deprogrammed”


Couric is just the latest left-leaning public figure to suggest ‘deprogramming’ Republican voters and lawmakers — a term that has been associated with so-called “reeducation camps,” which are utilized by authoritarian regimes to pacify political opponents.

Just a few weeks after the November election, as the Trump campaign and others filed legal challenges to election results in several states, Democratic National Committee member David Atkins argued that someone needs to “deprogram” Trump supporters.

“No seriously…how *do* you deprogram 75 million people? Where do you start? Fox? Facebook? We have to start thinking in terms of post-WWII Germany or Japan. Or the failures of Reconstruction in the South,” he tweeted.

And last week during an appearance on MSNBC, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson, in a discussion with Nikole Hannah-Jones, developer of the controversial “1619 Project,” used the term when describing supporters of President Trump as members of a “cult.”
Katie Couric expresses desire to 'deprogram' Trump supporters, heaps praise on second impeachment

Katie Couric Asks How We'll 'Deprogram People Who Signed Up For The Cult Of Trump?' (lifezette.com)

“There are millions of Americans, almost all white, almost all Republicans, who somehow need to be deprogrammed. It’s as if they are members of a cult, the Trumpist cult, and they have to be deprogrammed. Do you have any idea how we start that process, much less complete it?” Robinson said.




During a roundtable discussion on today’s edition of Morning Joe, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson asked NY Times Columnist Hannah-Jones how to “deprogram” Trump Supporters.

Robinson asked “Here’s the situation, though. We have — there are millions of Americans, almost all white, almost all Republicans, who somehow need to be deprogrammed. It’s as if they are members of a cult, the Trumpist cult, and they have to be deprogrammed. Do you have any idea how we start that process
'Morning Joe' Guests Ask the Important Questions, How Do We ‘Deprogram’ President Trump's Supporters? (thefederalistpapers.org)


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No seriously...how *do* you deprogram 75 million people? Where do you start? Fox? Facebook? We have to start thinking in terms of post-WWII Germany or Japan. Or the failures of Reconstruction in the South.
This is not your standard partisan policy disagreement. This is a conspiracy theory fueled belligerent death cult against reality & basic decency.

The only actual policy debates of note are happening within the dem coalition between left and center left.
David Atkins on Twitter: "This is not your standard partisan policy disagreement. This is a conspiracy theory fueled belligerent death cult against reality & basic decency. The only actual policy debates of note are happening within the dem coalition between left and center left." / Twitter

Leftists Suggest “Re-education Camps,” “Firing Squads,” Banning Talk Radio to “Deprogram” 75 Million Trump Supporters – Summit News


Dr. Bandy X. Lee, a forensic psychiatrist at Yale School of Medicine is the editor of the “Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.” She has been interviewed by or quoted on several progressive online websites and appeared on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show. Last summer she met with members of Congress who were exploring the idea of forming an expert panel to look into the issue of Trump’s mental fitness.

Recently she was referenced in a HuffPost article “Tim Apple. Oranges. German Dad. Mental Health Experts Warn That Trump Is In Decline.”

In an interview yesterday with RawStory, “Yale psychiatrist explains how to deprogram Trump supporters who’ve been sucked into the vortex of his lies,” she answers the question “If you had the chance to speak with Trump supporters, what would you say to them?”

Psychiatrist explains how to "deprogram" Trump supporters. (dailykos.com)

Don Lemon: Trump Supporters Need To Be "Deprogrammed" Before They Can Be Allowed To Vote | Video | RealClearPolitics

Must be Consequences’: Libs Want Trump Supporters Punished and ‘Deprogrammed’
'Must be Consequences': Libs Want Trump Supporters Punished and 'Deprogrammed' (trendingpolitics.com)


Clearly, they are not just talking about the ones that were violent or even those that were there only but all


It drives me nuts the double standard but what really gets me is the act is if its not happening they deny and don't even blush When its so out in the open yet deny its happening and its constant

You could predict it its obvious but when it happens they say this is dif or that or somehow its not a double standard when you predicted they would do just that
 
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Here is the thing though The Left is not acting anywhere in the same universe they did during the summer violence

I agree with this point. But the same can be said about many in the right as well Vic. Some do not have the same level of disgust as they did about the Summer violence.

However, overall, I would say that right was fairer in condemning both the summer events and those on Jan 6th. The left was not as fair overall.

Also I wouldnt pay attention to stuff Katie Couric says when we had a president who said some outrageous and outlandish things the last 4 years.

You gotta do checks and balances. For every nonsense someone on the left has said someone on the right has also said, including the president.
 
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