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[DayTimer]

You're not a sane thinker. You're not even a grown-up And now, you're the first person I've ever blocked on here. I come here for discussion, not childish crap.

It does seem though that you'd ascribe no responsibility to Trump unless he had physically led the march. And though he did not go to the capitol (he was allegedly dissuaded by Mark Meadows and his Secret Service detail to watch the unfolding from the comforts of his White House), he certainly appeared to give crowd its marching orders.

 

[toolbelt]

it did not look plan and it looked like a bunch of unhinged (Q annon Shaman) "Mildreds and their sons" (as someone else put it) type folks

Trump can not be held accountable for the type of people his rhetoric attracts, or the results of his rhetoric. He can only be held accountable for the intent of his rhetoric. If smarter people were motivated by his words, an attempted insurrection would not have been necessary, as he would have won the election.

 

[TRG1225]

It's not a stretch to say those idiots are the type that brainwash easily, and respond easily when using dog whistle words such as "stolen", "fight", "strength", "march" and "kick ass". While the naive think Trump gives speeches off his sleeve cuffs, the words are actually pre-selected for impact. Trump holds his followers in the same esteem as a trained dog, except instead of saying "good boy", he say's "I love you".

Oh yeah...I fancy myself a WWII buff like every other red blood pumpin' 'Murican Male, and Trump is classic Nazi propaganda in the early days of the 3rd Reich. Everything from playing the victim, constantly targeting a group of people to blame for "your" peoples' troubles, The Big Lie, fake news....all Nazi shit. Hitler and Goebbels were psychological masters of mob motivation. All of them know/knew EXACTLY what they were saying.

 

[toolbelt]

Oh yeah...I fancy myself a WWII buff like every other red blood pumpin' 'Murican Male, and Trump is classic Nazi propaganda in the early days of the 3rd Reich. Everything from playing the victim, constantly targeting a group of people to blame for "your" peoples' troubles, The Big Lie, fake news....all Nazi shit. Hitler and Goebbels were psychological masters of mob motivation. All of them know/knew EXACTLY what they were saying.

Hitler used the word "Lugenpresse"/Trump uses "fake news". Exact same meaning and purpose and effect. And after he was gone, nobody could find a Nazi anywhere. Same with Trumpers in 6 months, after the covid count hits 550,000+.

 

[marindependent]

Thanks for the post! Great Article.

 

[Allen Trent]

Thanks for the post! Great Article.

What article, there was an article?

 

[whatyouwantfinally]

It does seem though that you'd ascribe no responsibility to Trump unless he had physically led the march. And though he did not go to the capitol (he was allegedly dissuaded by Mark Meadows and his Secret Service detail to watch the unfolding from the comforts of his White House), he certainly appeared to give crowd its marching orders.

If you're wondering whether or not I think Trump has responsibility here, you should've asked.

Yes, I do. True to narcissistic form, his pride wouldn't allow him to accept defeat. With all that has happened over the last 4 years, I think he may actually even believe every single thing he claimed about the election. He wanted the biggest possible showing of support in hopes Republicans in congress would believe it was political suicide to not challenge the results. He should have known that in today's climate, this could drive certain people over the edge.

That's how the man operates, and there's nothing I've seen that makes me question my opinion on this.

Do I think he wanted violence, for Pelosi and Pence to be killed, or even for people to actually breach the Capitol? That's a HARD no, and I have no hesitation in saying that people who disagree with me on the first 2 at least are experiencing a disruption in rational thinking due to emotion (which is a common human phenomenon) or are badly misinformed.

When someone gives "marching orders" to lead a crowd to violence, how often do those "orders" include being peaceful? And why would he even say that if his plan was to have politicians killed and take over by force anyway? It's ridiculous.

 

[whatyouwantfinally]

Metinks you give these 'militias' too much credit. It ain't exactly Master Chief and Spartan Blue Team comprising these units.

There was a heavy mix of militia types, white supremacists and Q types that were the foremost instigators (many were a combination of the three)...if you're reading/watching any news sources outside of Fox, OANN, and Newsmax they have clearly identified enough of these people and the elements they are associated with. There were also a few dumbasses who just 'got caught up in the moment' and they also deserve harsh prison sentences.

First, I don't watch Fox, OANN, or Newsmax. If you want to discuss things, great, but don't assume our disagreements are due to you having better sources than I do.

Second, militias ARE typically comprised of a heavy dose of veterans. They spend an awful lot of time preparing for what they consider "big" moments. And while there were signs that some people appeared to be acting in coordination, that is not true of the MAJORITY of the people who were outside and inside the capitol. It was MOSTLY dumbasses who got caught up in the moment, which is almost always true of riots.

As far as the leftist is concerned...he's such a dumbass. I hope he gets the harshest treatment from the law as well, as his black ass did nothing to help the cause (the good cause, not whatever "the voices of the 74 million..." bulljive that ***er Carlson and company are spouting).

Nothing I disagree with here. I also don't think people like him (and there are a healthy dose of young people who fit the category on both sides) care a bit about any "cause". They want to feel like they're a part of something and they want attention. They often get other people hurt and they don't care. It's both creepy and sad.

The most amusing thing out of this non amusing situation to me is that almost to a man or woman, these idiots thought they could attempt a coup on national television, livestream it, post about it afterward, and still go back to work on their jobs on Thursday. Seriously, you ***ing Airbnb'ed to start an insurrection?!?!?

Yes. That's how stupid our world is now.

But, as bad as it feels to defend these idiots, I can't ignore the fact that most (if not all) of them really do believe that the election was stolen illegally. In their heads, they were defending democracy. I don't think that should earn them any leeway in a courtroom (though some may have a legitimate insanity defense), but empathy is something I work on as I get older, and I can't overlook that.

I feel the same way about most of the leftist rioters. They're wrong/manipulated/crazy (and in some cases evil, but I'm ignoring those here), but if I believed to be factually true the things that they do I can't say I wouldn't be of similar sentiment.

Now that the FBI is on 'dat ass, almost all of them are begging for mercy.

THAT, more than anything, makes me a whole lot less antsy about these MAGAT's who supposedly aren't going to take it (whatever 'it' is) anymore. Of course there's always going to be the individuals that are looking to be martyred and just want to take as many with them as possible...but as far as a concentrated, ongoing coordinated effort across 50 states to overturn government and/or the election? Heh.

As my daughter would say...."these hoes ain't committed."

If people on both sides don't stop using dehumanizing language (Like MAGAT's) when talking about their political opposition there is absolutely no way the country survives. None. We got away with it for a long time, but we're at the point where if we don't make a SERIOUS effort to humanize each other our children are going to grow up in a world of constant bloodshed, bitterness and economic despair. And the more we do it, the more those who seek power will see divisiveness as the path. We HAVE to be better than that, it's literally life and death.

 

[Tothetop]

What article, there was an article?

Yes. On page 5 lol

 

[shonceman]

@shonceman I don't think what happened on the 6th fits what many folks would imagine is an insurrection, especially not what we read in history books or see in movies.

However, stop looking at it from a "letter of the law" perspective and look at the "spirit." The motivation, inspiration, or spirit behind what happened is an insurrection. It's what led to that behavior.

So while yes, it did not look plan and it looked like a bunch of unhinged (Q annon Shaman) "Mildreds and their sons" (as someone else put it) type folks, it was still an insurrection.

Its no different than one man planning an Oceans Eleven type bank robbery vs. another guy walking in with his hand in his pocket and a bad wig pretending he has a gun and asking for money. Both scenarios are motivated by thievery.

That’s a fair point. Since you tagged me, I thought I’d jump back in to acknowledge that. I really am through talking about it, otherwise.