EFES or Securus in Pittsburgh Area

[jdeasy]

JD
I am referring to when you trash LH. You and I both know that Jack Londen started in the same shoes of us and he is the real deal in the fe industry. No one can deny that. We both got a long way to go to top or match his success.

No, I do not know that nor do I think he is the real deal. If he was the real deal why would he run such anti agent company?

Nor have I trashed LH. It is is not trash talk to state the facts.

If you weigh 500 lbs and i call you fat it's not trash talk, it's a fact.

What have I said about LH, that they steal your renewals if under $250/mo? That is a fact.

Did I say that their rates ae too high? That is a fact.

Did I say they cut agent commissions if the client pays from a savings account? That is a fact.

Did I say that they cut agent's commissions if they pay monthly direct? That is a fact.

You can't find one thing I've said about them that is not accurate. Sometimes the truth hurts but that doesn't keep it from being the truth.

 

[theinsuranceman]

No, I do not know that nor do I think he is the real deal. If he was the real deal why would he run such anti agent company?

Nor have I trashed LH. It is is not trash talk to state the facts.

If you weigh 500 lbs and i call you fat it's not trash talk, it's a fact.

What have I said about LH, that they steal your renewals if under $250/mo? That is a fact.

Did I say that their rates ae too high? That is a fact.

Did I say they cut agent commissions if the client pays from a savings account? That is a fact.

Did I say that they cut agent's commissions if they pay monthly direct? That is a fact.

You can't find one thing I've said about them that is not accurate. Sometimes the truth hurts but that doesn't keep it from being the truth.

OK, so this info is accurate about LH, and you have 1st hand experience as a writing agent for them a few yrs. ago. I understand.

BUT, you trash SL almost as much as you trash LH. You've never been assigned a writing number from SL and don't have any 1st hand experience with SL. All you go by is here-say from unsuccessful loser agents who failed with SL and a few others up here who also have ZERO experience with SL.

If you are going to rely on heresay from loser agents, including the loser agents who failed with EFES, then you should be bashing EFES with the same vigor as you bash SL. Do you follow the logic?

 

[MGA]

JD
It's funny how you think you know exactly what LH offers to its leaders. Let me help you out, Your Mistaken. I will state it again. JDs track record vs LHs track record. JD it's okay to say there are other agents that are better than me are you.

 

[coloradoseniormarket]

JD
It's funny how you think you know exactly what LH offers to its leaders. Let me help you out, Your Mistaken. I will state it again. JDs track record vs LHs track record. JD it's okay to say there are other agents that are better than me are you.

Your Mistaken- how about you're mistaken.

 

[b61mack]

MGA you would be more productive, if you would just stick with the facts, and stop the attacks. JD is the real deal,and is very informative. I look foreward to reading his posts. If you notice Greg doesn't attack, he states his facts, and you decide. JD and Greg have different points of view, but that is what keeps the forum interesting. If everyone had the same view, the forum would be boring. If you are an MGA with LH, that means you sold a lot of insurance, and have FE experience to share with the forum. Tone it down and share.

 

[jacobtn]

MGA you would be more productive, if you would just stick with the facts, and stop the attacks. JD is the real deal,and is very informative. I look foreward to reading his posts. If you notice Greg doesn't attack, he states his facts, and you decide. JD and Greg have different points of view, but that is what keeps the forum interesting. If everyone had the same view, the forum would be boring. If you are an MGA with LH, that means you sold a lot of insurance, and have FE experience to share with the forum. Tone it down and share.

Tone it down and share? this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are we kids in school

 

[jdeasy]

OK, so this info is accurate about LH, and you have 1st hand experience as a writing agent for them a few yrs. ago. I understand.

BUT, you trash SL almost as much as you trash LH. You've never been assigned a writing number from SL and don't have any 1st hand experience with SL. All you go by is here-say from unsuccessful loser agents who failed with SL and a few others up here who also have ZERO experience with SL.

If you are going to rely on heresay from loser agents, including the loser agents who failed with EFES, then you should be bashing EFES with the same vigor as you bash SL. Do you follow the logic?

I would challenge to find a post of mine bashing SL. Take as much time as you want finding it but it doesn't exist.
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JD
It's funny how you think you know exactly what LH offers to its leaders. Let me help you out, Your Mistaken. I will state it again. JDs track record vs LHs track record. JD it's okay to say there are other agents that are better than me are you.

There are many agent better than me. Several that post right here at the forums. I have claimed any differently. You are not even on the scale of good agents. But, you do own an insurance company. That's gotta count for something.

Nor have I ever said anything about what LH offers to it's leaders. I am talking about what LH offers to agents which is very little.

You can try that smokescreen somewhere else. It won't fly here.

 

[MGA]

JD
As I have stated earlier you are a great salesman I'm sure and I agree with most of what you state. You do have a lot to offer any agent and you should consider building your own deal. I hope you will take this idea and run with it. It would benefit you and your family so much especially in the long run. The renewal income could last forever and could be passed down to anyone you choose.

 

[jdeasy]

JD
As I have stated earlier you are a great salesman I'm sure and I agree with most of what you state. You do have a lot to offer any agent and you should consider building your own deal. I hope you will take this idea and run with it. It would benefit you and your family so much especially in the long run. The renewal income could last forever and could be passed down to anyone you choose.

That is absolutely not in plans and I can't imagine that it ever would be. I think I would be terrible to work for anyway. I am a perfectionist and I do not have the patience to deal with people that do not accept and implement advice that they sought out.

I see that with Travis all the time. An agent will be stuggling and ask Travis for help. He will ask them what they are doing and then give corrective advice. The next week they will say they are still stuggling and he will ask them if they tried what he suggested. It's almost always the same answer, "no, I didn't do that yet". What??? I would blow a gasket with those.

But, travis doesn't. He has the patience to go back over everything again.

Then you have wet behind the ears agents wanting 110% contracts and 75-100% advances and free leads.

It is not in my make up to deal with that. But, thanks for the compliment anyway.

 

[Biggin]

Tins
Let me start by stating I have never recruited anyone from this forum. The only reason that I even post on this forum is because so many of these so called FE EXPERTS give bad information to other agents. It's easy to tell others what they should or should not do. It's kinda like being a sideline coach. Every agent can be good at that, but few really make it happen. Be a difference maker not a hater of others that are more successful than you. I do have to give JD credit in his sales presentation and he does give a lot of good advice but when he trash talks companies that started from the same shoes as he's in it's hard for me not to post. Think about this, at one time most all insurance companies were started by a great sales agent so remember when you trash talk them your only hurting all of us. We all are just life insurance agents. Let up with all that negativity and hate.

"It's kinda like being a sideline coach"

Yeah I hate it when the coach is on the sideline....WAIT, what?