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[XYZ99qq]

Haha. I'm not being a smartass...you think you understand, but you really don't.

Streaming YouTube from your computer to your TV as a monitor is not OTT Streaming and it's NOT what we're doing for TV leads. We consider that a web call in and produce those as well as a separate lead type.

Let me educate you with your example. What would be a TV lead is advertising on "YouTube TV". Which is a replacement for cable that consumers pay for that has all the same programming and live TV that cable TV does. There are lots of these services out there competing for market share and it's the future of TV. Cable TV is dying.

I don't need you to educate me about anything.
You always have such a condescending attitude on this forum acting like you need to educate people.

I'm fully aware that OTT streaming includes streaming and some live content.
It's not broadcast TV. Therefore, it's not a TV lead, it's an OTT streaming lead.
There's a difference. The platform matters.

More streaming platforms are lowering their minimum budget so more businesses can advertise. It's going to be similar to advertising on YouTube.

You're not doing anything special.

Like I said before, describe leads correctly or you're just misleading agents.

You do zero Facebook ads (maybe that's changed).

I'm aware of your attempt at YouTube ads and spectacularly failing at it because the cost-per-lead was too high. Maybe you'll keep trying.

And I'm aware of your "web opt-in call-back leads", which are a joke.
It's just telemarketing.
I wouldn't be surprised if you're just buying very-aged crap "opt-in" data from Assurance and others, using the Honduras call-centers to harass the people (do they even agree to a call-back?), presenting it as a legit lead, and having the audacity to charge agents for this.

And your "live transfers" are the same as above, just transferred at the time the person answers after being harassed endlessly. But that's not really a live transfer.

You twist words too much, play semantics, and misrepresent your leads.
You're a bit of a snake.

Your once stellar reputation, which was unearned, continues to dive as more agents see through your nonsense.

I won't engage with you any further.

 

[JRoot]

I don't need you to educate me about anything.
You always have such a condescending attitude on this forum acting like you need to educate people.

I'm fully aware that OTT streaming includes streaming and some live content.
It's not broadcast TV. Therefore, it's not a TV lead, it's an OTT streaming lead.
There's a difference. The platform matters.

More streaming platforms are lowering their minimum budget so more businesses can advertise. It's going to be similar to advertising on YouTube.

You're not doing anything special.

Like I said before, describe leads correctly or you're just misleading agents.

You do zero Facebook ads (maybe that's changed).

I'm aware of your attempt at YouTube ads and spectacularly failing at it because the cost-per-lead was too high. Maybe you'll keep trying.

And I'm aware of your "web opt-in call-back leads", which are a joke.
It's just telemarketing.
I wouldn't be surprised if you're just buying very-aged crap "opt-in" data from Assurance and others, using the Honduras call-centers to harass the people (do they even agree to a call-back?), presenting it as a legit lead, and having the audacity to charge agents for this.

And your "live transfers" are the same as above, just transferred at the time the person answers after being harassed endlessly. But that's not really a live transfer.

You twist words too much, play semantics, and misrepresent your leads.
You're a bit of a snake.

Your once stellar reputation, which was unearned, continues to dive as more agents see through your nonsense.

I won't engage with you any further.

Ok this makes sense now, you're a hater trying to smear us from an anonymous account. You took your shot - I hope you can move on now.

All this is false except Facebook Ads. You're right, we don't do FB ads currently because our data tells us our prequalified callbacks work better as an outbound lead.

 

[Fire]

I do find it curious how you seem to be able to maintain a high persistency in fe telesales . Possibly more with tv leads that you just started doing the last yr . Outside tv leads Fe is Fe . These people must be serviced in person to have a shot at persistency .Lack of education makes face to face on issues imperative for high persistency.

 

[JRoot]

I do find it curious how you seem to be able to maintain a high persistency in fe telesales . Possibly more with tv leads that you just started doing the last yr . Outside tv leads Fe is Fe . These people must be serviced in person to have a shot at persistency .Lack of education makes face to face on issues imperative for high persistency.

If you sell correctly, persistency is the same as f2f. You can service just as well as f2f over the phone.

I will say if you're quoting and "slinging" FE without a proper presentation, SS billing and verifying banking, persistency is terrible. That's probably where this stigma originated.

 

[rousemark]

There are companies that you can get 130% with no proof of production, sure. It's not "market rate" though. That's all I'm saying. Carriers that we write that don't require proof of production don't want IMO's slinging those 130's around to everyone. Any IMO direct to the carriers on here can back me on this.

If you have your own leads, needed little support, none of our tech and had the production, we've handed out bigger than 130% contracts. Most agents aren't like that though.

I'll talk our exact comp. It's on our website. We start agents at 110% and up to 125% with production. Free technology, access to our proprietary leads, 7 day telesales training bootcamp, daily huddles/training and conservation team behind them included.

I do not understand why a company cares what commission rate an IMO gives out. It does not cost them any more out of their pocket. If the IMO has 150%, the company is going to pay out the same no matter if the IMO gives an agent 100% or 140%.

 

[jdeasy]

I do not understand why a company cares what commission rate an IMO gives out. It does not cost them any more out of their pocket. If the IMO has 150%, the company is going to pay out the same no matter if the IMO gives an agent 100% or 140%.

The companies only care because the IMO's whine about it. It's all part of their unholy alliance.

Part of the deal to require agents be released from a contract they never signed.

Most companies love the IMO system so they don't have to deal with agents directly. They won't give an agent higher contracts direct to steer them to the IMO's.

When one IMO advertises say a 125% contract with a particular company it's not the company that complains until the other IMO's giving 100% start whining to that company.

And there's far more offering 100% so they get heard.

 

[DonP]

It also allows one imo to steal from another Imo . As rouse said If I'm direct to am Imo and he's at 150 plus . He does zip for me . He'll gladly give me 130-135% . I rarely call him and he's making15-20% . It's like money falling from the sky with zero stress . I know a lot of IMO's have Downlines that recruit and they make only 5-10%. That's why I always go direct to the Imo with no layers . 90% of guys who recruit are at 125-140% trying to parade around as IMO's.

 

[myinsurebiz]

It's like money falling from the sky with zero stress .

Roll Up Debt is 100% stress . . .

 

[Ksutton]

FYI a No more charge for hang ups. Now it is a mix of data leads that will also call In With TV leads I'm loving the constant improvements but my experience has shown much more D.E and people asking for free stuff… overcoming more traditional "FE" objections. Certainly not the same caliber as a tv call in. Flow has increased but I believe it still needs adjusted. Just my two cents

The future of telesales is here - inbound leads baby. Let's go! I'm loving the DBGA platform more and more. No doubt, in my opinion, the best place to grow and scale. Let's go 2022!

 

[Jason Hall]

@Ksutton Can you give us an update on how things are going at Digital BGA? It looks like you were north of $10k for the month of March. Just curious if you could share your recent experiences with DBGA?

Also, it would be interesting to know your average lead cost per sale, average sale amount, and overall chargeback percentage? Much appreciated.