Fex Contracting or the Insurance Squad

[DayTimer]

That is "silent recruiter"..

You Tennessee folks sure talk funny

What about EFES?

When you stir, you use a BIG spoon, don't you Tom? lol

There are plenty of fine folks at EFES. Again, my main criteria would be to find someone with whom you can have good rapport and who has produced at the level you aspire to produce. If I were to look to EFES, I'd contact Christopher Smith @Baseball7 on the forum. He is a door knocking and field underwriting savant, and a great guy in person. If not for a rather bizarre and byzantine course of circumstances and events, I'd likely have signed on with Chris from jump street and never looked back. He is a great guy who I respect and admire greatly.

I am with Matt on The Squad, and I could not be more pleased with my choice. He hooked me into a system from the get go that is finally putting wind in my sails. The learning curve was all me - he put the tools in my hand from the moment I arrived and instead of hitting the nail on the head I hit myself in the head. Fortunately I'm a smart guy and after forty whacks or so I realized I ought to just do it as Matt says lol. I have access to all the good carriers I need, extremely competitive comp levels, tremendous field support when needed, and the Glenngarry leads - He tried to play coy when he said:

I know I'm missing more sources that we have but this is a good start

He "forgot" to mention the Glenngarry leads of all things (funny he didn't mention the Glenngary leads in his post above - but trust me - they are real, and we have them ). Don't believe me? Here is my official The Insurance Squad lead binder:



Matt's a great guy whom I both respect and admire. Importantly, he has done and provided everything he promised me and more.

Jose Arteaga with CFC is another guy whom I have come to know and respect. He, like Matt and Chris, is a producer who knows how to teach others to produce. All three of these guys can plug a new agent into a proven system for FE sales success, get you on a good, fixed price direct mail lead program, and show you how to maximize the ROI on your lead and time investment. If the agent has the work ethic and the nerve to do the work the agent will be able to succeed to whatever that agent's potential for success is.

I'm sure there are others worthy of consideration, but a stealth recruiter can spread himself only so thin. Not that it matters, but if any of y'all sign on with any of these three gentlemen mentioned above, just be sure to tell him that DayTimer sent ya' (not that it matters).

 

[Red dime]

Same to you FELLA!!

You pinched a nerve going after our friend Louis like that.

Also, I was typing that as I was having dinner surrounded by a bunch of under 30 somethings who quite clearly were annoyed that some 50 year old guy was sitting there having his dinner in "their" cafe.

It was a vegan cafe. I like the place because they have an awesome green tea. As they do not have anything on the menu I eat, I usually bring my own meal (with the owner's blessing) to have along with that delicious green tea.

So, anyway, I'm sitting there, typing away on my tablet, sipping my green tea, and tearing a part a Walmart rotisserie chicken, and all these vegan millenials are sitting there staring at me and shaking their heads as though I just killed man!

I guess I let them get into my head too much, so sorry for calling you a douche - it was too harsh.

That being said, I'd like to point out the following:






That's some good advice, right there ... Good luck with whatever you decide.

Enough for now, I have to run, as those doors aren't going to knock themselves!

 

[CALTCAgent]

Why can't the man ask for a link to commission levels on a website ? Now the recruiter can say those are something we need to talk about, negotiate, don't publish, etc.

Seems like a fair question.

 

[Newby]

Why can't the man ask for a link to commission levels on a website ? Now the recruiter can say those are something we need to talk about, negotiate, don't publish, etc.

Seems like a fair question.

It's one of the most important questions for any agent to ask. At many more if not most agencies you get those levels IF you ask and let them know that you know. If you fail the ask, you will find yourself with less. Happens every day.

I'm all for agencies making their fair cut. But they didn't by need to be taking part of the agents portion for no reason.

 

[Ryan Caras]

In my opinion every situation is different some agents want to have high comp no service no training no nothing... other agents want to have a 25K/month producer train them exactly the way they do it... and other agents want the IMO to pay half the lead bill and have a call it 90 percent contract and a 14 dollar DM lead... i think just posting it on the website doesn't tell the story... that's why when someone asks me that in an email or a text i simply say lets have a business conversation and figure out what program best fits your needs so that you can maximize your income.

 

[Newby]

In my opinion every situation is different some agents want to have high comp no service no training no nothing... other agents want to have a 25K/month producer train them exactly the way they do it... and other agents want the IMO to pay half the lead bill and have a call it 90 percent contract and a 14 dollar DM lead... i think just posting it on the website doesn't tell the story... that's why when someone asks me that in an email or a text i simply say lets have a business conversation and figure out what program best fits your needs so that you can maximize your income.

In this day and age everyone knows that new agents getting into FE can get top training from $25K+ Monthly producing agents and highly effective and proven lead programs and still start at their full commissions (average 115% for new agents but 125% with a few companies).

It's when extra middlemen get in the loop and start watering the commission down (110, 105, 100, 90, yikes!) just so the "friend" that recruited can get a cut of the selling agent's money mainly because "he got there first" that the new agents are being taken advantage of only because the recruiters/builders know they can get away with it.

I'm not big on government regulation. But I think that every agency should post their "minimum wage" commissions right on their website. Why should we (Agencies) give one new agent 115% and the next new agent 100% just because one of them had checked around and educated himself a bit more about what he can get as a new agent. That is exploiting the ignorance of new agents who are putting their trust in you.

All new agents should start at the same level. Or have the same options to choose from such as XYZ commision level and leads at x price or option commissions at XYX level and leads at Y price. As long as it is clearly spelled out and a fair playing field to all new incoming agents it's good. But one guy gets THIS but the next guy is more gullible so he gets THAT is what's wrong with this whole business.

And those levels should not be like an Easter Egg hunt to find.

 

[Thedude]

It's not an Easter egg hunt to call or contact the business. It isn't my issue in the slightest that agents have to "look" around. You know how painstaking the job search process can be nowadays? They have it easy.

I'd prefer to talk to someone and actually get a feel for who they are and see if it's a mutual relationship.

 

[goillini52]

I'd prefer to talk to someone and actually get a feel for who they are and see if it's a mutual relationship.

Dude, that sounds like something out of the personal ads. Do you also like long walks on the beach?

 

[Newby]

It's not an Easter egg hunt to call or contact the business. It isn't my issue in the slightest that agents have to "look" around. You know how painstaking the job search process can be nowadays? They have it easy.

I'd prefer to talk to someone and actually get a feel for who they are and see if it's a mutual relationship.

Yes I agree that if an agent can call and get the commission levels when they ask that is acceptable. But the reality is with many they ask and they get the run around. That is what I'm calling the Easter Egg hunt.

You make a good point about agents deciding to sign up before they even have a conversation with you. I've had calls where that's how the conversation starts "I want to contract with you." I always find that odd. I don't know you yet and you don't know me yet either. That's not a good way to start either. We need to talk to see if we are a good fit for each other.

 

[CALTCAgent]

Dude, that sounds like something out of the personal ads. Do you also like long walks on the beach?

What about Pina Coladas and getting caught in the rain ?