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Managed care stocks rise as health reform stumbles
By TOM MURPHY , 06.18.09, 03:35 PM EDT


INDIANAPOLIS --

Managed care stocks surged Thursday as the health care reform push wobbled in Washington.

Investors have worried for weeks about the possibility of a government payer being created to compete with private health insurers. Many Democrats, including President Barack Obama, strongly support that option as part of a plan to provide coverage for nearly 50 million uninsured people.

But Republicans and businesses groups have argued that it would lead to unfair competition by matching private insurers against a government plan that didn't have to make a profit.

The Democrats' push suffered setbacks this week, as committees working on bills fell behind schedule. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office also said a proposal from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee would cost about $1 trillion over 10 years but still leave 37 million people uninsured.

"We are convinced more than ever that any significantly market-changing legislation stands little to no chance of passage," BMO Capital Markets analyst Dave Shove said in a note to investors. "It appears highly unlikely that any bill will come out of the Senate or the House until after August recess.

"This greatly dims the chances of passing a reform bill in 2009 - or maybe in this administration."

Edward Jones analyst Steve Shubitz noted that the entire health care sector rose in trading Thursday. But he added that managed care stocks are particularly volatile.

"These stocks kind of trade on emotion," he said in an interview. "It's like people now on the margin are saying, 'Maybe there won't be a public plan or maybe ... it will be so watered down that it will take a lot of years before it really impacts the private insurance companies.'"

Several health insurance stocks outpaced the overall market. The Standard & Poor's 500 index was up 1 percent in Thursday afternoon trading.

Shares of Coventry Health Care Inc. were up more than 9 percent, or $1.61, to $18.37; Humana Inc. shares were up more than 7 percent or $2.11 to $30.45; Cigna Corp. shares also climbed 7 percent, or $1.64, to $23.48.

WellPoint Inc., UnitedHealth Group Inc. and Aetna Inc. all saw their share prices rise 4 percent or more.


BUSINESS AS USUAL:yes:

Where is the forum ***?? He's been very quiet lately:laugh:
 
We will not have any kind of major overhaul in our health care system within the next 8 years. As soon as Obama announced 3 weeks ago that "we must pass health care legislation now" everything fell apart instantly. Obama's support vaporized.
 
Define NOTHING. A lot already has.
All politicians are betting on something happening. They just haven't defined what will happen yet.

They will do something so they can say they completed health care reform. It might not be anything more than through a few billion towards a way to insure the uninsured, but something will happen.

My guess..... they will require a universal coverage be made available for those who currently cannot subscribe to an IFP plan on their own. Those with high cholesteral, high blood pressure, 2 heart attacks, and a big mac for lunch will 'finally' be able to get coverage.

Nobody will discuss rates. Rates will be subsidized. Carriers will offer this in exchange for ?????

Not a terrible solution at the end of the day.

Obama has bet his presidency on this and unemployment not exceeding 8%. He already missed the second part (though it was Bush's fault). He has to have something to hold up as a success for healthcare. If not, he will be another Jimmy Carter, with a better teleprompter.

Dan
 
Name the bet - I'm in. NOTHING is going to happen.

Wow - That's a bold statement my friend.

I might even take you up on that challenge.

You are saying you would put up a bet that Guaranteed Issue and Community Rating will not happen? The state "exchange" will not happen?

GI is a done deal John... The questions remains is it GI for ALL or GI for those in the exchange.

The "squeeze" will continue. SCHIP expansion, Medicaid expansion, subsidies - the "squeeze" is going to get worse.

You still up for the bet?
 
When the "reform" happens, health agents and John's association will be things of the past.

I have already registered ILIAA.org - Indy Life Insuranc Agents' Assocation. I plan on recruiting everyone who is a member of Chump's assocation. If I just get 20%, I'll have 8,000 members at $19.95 per month.

Rick
 
Good luck Rick. Although my members don't pay dues, if they join another association, I get a Golden Parachute of $2500 from each member. And I will make them pay!
MOST members don't pay dues; I read the 1 point print and opted in for the penny a month dues which exempts me from the Golden Parachute clause. That's insurance folks! Pennies in the cup to avoid dollars in the parachute! :twitchy:
 
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