Healthcare Reform Will Not Pass

[Mr_Ed]

Sen. Demint made the bold move of objecting to the appointment of conferees. This one man has made the difference.

The Best Christmas Present Ever: Senator DeMint Objects to the Appointment of the Conferees - Dan_Perrin's blog - RedState

 

[CHUMPS FROM OXFORD]

Never a dull moment indeed!

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

Health reform will pass and be signed into law.

 

[Mac1958]

There's absolutely, positively no way the Democrats won't pass something. It would be a political loss of historic proportions and cause a massive tidal wave in 2010.

They'll plop a steaming pile of something on to a plate, call it a steak, and declare victory, regardless of how destructive it is. Guaranteed.

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[Crabcake Johnny]

It'll pass because if something doesn't pass now we will never have change. If a Dem president with a Dem controlled House and Senate can't pass it there's zero hope of doing anything in the next, say 100 years.

Once the Repubs takes back control of either the House, Senate or Presidency the package will be "don't get sick."

 

[sman]

Unfortunately, the package of "don't get sick" would be better than what we are going to see AND it would be less costly to the tax payers of the country.

 

[Mr_Ed]

It'll pass because if something doesn't pass now we will never have change. If a Dem president with a Dem controlled House and Senate can't pass it there's zero hope of doing anything in the next, say 100 years.

Once the Repubs takes back control of either the House, Senate or Presidency the package will be "don't get sick."

I fully expected a reform bill to pass, until this brilliant move by Demint. I heard that this move was possible, but I didn't think anyone would have the courage to do it.

The House's version passed by only a couple of votes (and one of them was a Republican who only voted for it because it had already passed.) It had only a couple of spare votes.

The Senate's version had no votes to spare.

The only way it can pass now is if the House rubber stamps the Senate version. The likelihood of that happening is extremely small, because the liberals in Congress will not vote for the Senate version because there's no public option and because of the abortion restrictions.

The left-wing of the Democrat party will kill the Senate's bill in the House.

If, by some slim chance, the House does pass an amended version of the Senate bill (one with a public option or with Medicare enrollment available for 55-64), it won't pass in the Senate because it won't have the 60 votes for cloture (because Lieberman won't support it.)

Healthcare reform is dead. Killed by the far left and the far right.

This is good. It devolved into a terrible piece of legislation and they really should start all over and do it right.

 

[sman]

Healthcare reform is dead. Killed by the far left and the far right.

I wish you were right, but I don't believe you are. The Dems are going to pass something rather than nothing. It would be a huge loss to the Dems to let this fail at this point. No matter how horrible it is. And that's the sad reality of our political system. At this point it has nothing top do with what is best for the country, only that one party wins and the other loses.

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

I fully expected a reform bill to pass, until this brilliant move by Demint. I heard that this move was possible, but I didn't think anyone would have the courage to do it.

The House's version passed by only a couple of votes (and one of them was a Republican who only voted for it because it had already passed.) It had only a couple of spare votes.

The Senate's version had no votes to spare.

The only way it can pass now is if the House rubber stamps the Senate version. The likelihood of that happening is extremely small, because the liberals in Congress will not vote for the Senate version because there's no public option and because of the abortion restrictions.

The left-wing of the Democrat party will kill the Senate's bill in the House.

If, by some slim chance, the House does pass an amended version of the Senate bill (one with a public option or with Medicare enrollment available for 55-64), it won't pass in the Senate because it won't have the 60 votes for cloture (because Lieberman won't support it.)

Healthcare reform is dead. Killed by the far left and the far right.

This is good. It devolved into a terrible piece of legislation and they really should start all over and do it right.

I don't believe this is correct. Once the committees merge the bills it only takes a simply majority to pass it.

 

[stuy119]

Unfortunately, the package of "don't get sick" would be better than what we are going to see AND it would be less costly to the tax payers of the country.

At least that is halfway to "get fit and we'll have less expensive claims," which is one of the best ways to reduce healthcare expenses.