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How Will Prospecting Change After September
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Can you reference this specifically?
Hey Steven,
Welcome to the Forum!
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It's actually illegal now unless you offer an opt out at the BEGINNING of the message...which no one does. Maybe no one is a bit much...most everyone does not.
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Just like your first posts were?
You come on here posting blatant spam in violation of the forum rules, yet you expect us to believe your assertions on "compliance".
Nice try.
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LMAO.....too funny! I normally disagree with you Moon but on this one you and Tom are 100% correct. No way no how can you VB after Sept 1st unless the list is opt in data AND it has to be your OWN opt in data your calling on, not bought aged internet data or a rented list. I'm not saying this just because Darkstar and I are long time fierce competitors on another forum....im saying this becuase its the truth!
Mark my words!!!! What you will see a ton of after Sept 1st will be hosted voip "predictive" dialers. Many companies will hire a few Telemarketers and put them on these dialers. That is why I sold my VB colocation about a year ago and elected to expand my hosted platform as well as my direct mail facilty.
When it comes to propspecting through a dialer you must go with a real live voice after Sept 1st. There are many suppliers for this service....you have five9, mortgage dialer, safe soft solution, mojo, and of course my company Magnalogix. ALl of these services are pretty much the same with teh exception of how the platforms are sold. Some require contracts and long distance bills, some are flat fee unlimmited LD.
If anyone has any hosted dialer questions pelase fire away! It's the wave of the future for anyone propecting by phone!
Happy dialing!
Mark my words!!!! What you will see a ton of after Sept 1st will be hosted voip "predictive" dialers. Many companies will hire a few Telemarketers and put them on these dialers. That is why I sold my VB colocation about a year ago and elected to expand my hosted platform as well as my direct mail facilty.
When it comes to propspecting through a dialer you must go with a real live voice after Sept 1st. There are many suppliers for this service....you have five9, mortgage dialer, safe soft solution, mojo, and of course my company Magnalogix. ALl of these services are pretty much the same with teh exception of how the platforms are sold. Some require contracts and long distance bills, some are flat fee unlimmited LD.
If anyone has any hosted dialer questions pelase fire away! It's the wave of the future for anyone propecting by phone!
Happy dialing!
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mfrager
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I think there is a lot of rumors and mis-information going around about what is changing regarding the rules for telemarketing on Sept. 1, 2009.
First of all, no rules are actually changing on that date. The FTC rules in question are already in place and effective today. It is just that the FTC plans on beginning some kind of enforcement program, presumably against the worst violators and those who use voice broadcasting for scams.
One key exemption to the existing rules relates to calling customers (whether using an automated message or a live person) that have requested information about your area of business within the past 90 days. This give businesses a change to follow up on leads during that window. This exemption also allows you to call numbers on the DNC list.
After extensive research and consultations with our attorney, these are the policies that my company (dialyourleads.com) uses: We make multiple (automated) follow up calls only within the first two business days after a lead is submitted.
We allow dialing of aged insurance leads as long as they're not more than 90 days old. We generally allow one pass through those.
Our system is very polite, and offers an easy opt out. Once opted out (or successfully transferred) all calls to that person will cease.
Many consumers who are transferred on the first call really like the quick response of the service.
The purpose of the FTC rules is to keep people from dialing through the phone book over and over with voice broadcasts (especially ones for scams). It is does not forbid automated responses to recent requests, as long as the consumer is able to effectively opt out.
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Can you just call random residential numbers with a recorded message, where the person called can press 1 to be transferred or press 2 to be removed from call list?
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Raymond, I think you meant to say "Mark my words..." That is unless you are typing the word "mark" in a British accent. Good post, BTW.
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No British accent here boss! Spelling error noted and changed. Thanks for the heads up and compliment!
Raymond, I think you meant to say "Mark my words..." That is unless you are typing the word "mark" in a British accent. Good post, BTW.
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Here's a link to a page on the FTC website: FTC Issues Final Telemarketing Sales Rule Amendments Regarding Prerecorded Calls.
The language the FTC is using is "selling with a prerecorded message". I don't think there's anyway legitimate way around it, if you want to sell using a voicebroadcaster you have to have permission to dial. I've heard of some folks saying that companies are moving their dialers overseas as a so called "loophole", but if an agent is buying those leads and working them I don't believe that the courts will see any difference.
I mentioned this in some other posts, but a few months ago I started using overseas telemarketers to do basically the same thing the voicebroadcaster does. My operating cost is way more than $0.02/minute and it's a lot more work, but my actual cost on a lead is about the same and I have agents doing very well working these leads. It's absolutely not for everyone, but it's certainly something worth considering. If anyone wants help getting this started feel free to send me an e-mail.
