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[/QUOTE]Level: I can get them a traditional IUL or Whole Life for less money better benefit.
Graded: Likely can get them a better policy than FE, same cost and maybe better benefits.
Modified/GI: As I said, rare cases it works if they die in the 3rd to 8th year. By the 8th they're almost self funded. I agree, this policy is good for your 5' bowling ball case somehow still hanging on.
Glad to see you changed you tagline, it was tasteless. Where else can you get 10%? Have you seen the S&P since 2008?
Dec. 31, 2017 21.83%
Dec. 31, 2016 11.96%
Dec. 31, 2015 1.38%
Dec. 31, 2014 13.69%
Dec. 31, 2013 32.39%
Dec. 31, 2012 16.00%
Dec. 31, 2011 2.11%
Dec. 31, 2010 15.06%
Dec. 31, 2009 26.46%
15,546 posts, you obviously seek out posts simply to be a prick.[/QUOTE]
Look man you simply don't know what you don't know.
If you worked the FE market for any period of time, you would understand that MOST of these clients are very unhealthy. In terms of traditional life insurance, they would either be a decline or have a severe table rating.
Also, you fail to recognize that non FE life products have much higher face amount minimums. Even at a lower price per thousand, the higher face amounts would preclude many of them from being able to afford the minimum.
Here's just one FE case I did last week, and this is not at all uncommon.
Female, 66, non tobacco, she is taking Hydrochlorothiazide, lisinopril, humalog, levothyroxine, and abilify.
I got this lady day one coverage at the lowest price the carrier offers. What could you do for her with a non FE product? I doubt you could place her at all.
Comparing FE to payday loans is beyond dishonest. FE policies are built to absorb heavy risk because the market that demands these products couldn't get coverage otherwise.
Also, you couldn't use a simplified issue product to get these folks covered which means you would have to go fully underwritten. The face amount minimums on fully underwritten products are WAY higher compared to non med products. You may find 1 out of 100 FE clients who could afford the face amount required for fully underwritten products.
Plus, these people do not want exams, so most of them wouldn't do it if you offered.
And in regards to "self insuring", that is not feasible for the FE market. The whole reason they are 50-85 and need insurance to pay for their burial is because they haven't been good with money. If they were, they wouldn't need insurance. Telling them (however unhealthy they are) to simply put money each month in a savings or investment product is like telling a 13 year old to balance a checkbook. Sure they can, but we all know they won't. When they have an insurance policy, it's viewed much differently plus it comes out automatically. Clients could skip a month when it comes to saving money each money, but they know they can't do that with an insurance policy.
Again, you don't know the market, so your comments are baseless and ignorant.
I wouldn't speak on the nuances of the IUL market. I'm intelligent enough to admit my knowledge on these products is lacking. Therefore, I don't attempt to advise people on them as if I were qualified to do so.
Graded: Likely can get them a better policy than FE, same cost and maybe better benefits.
Modified/GI: As I said, rare cases it works if they die in the 3rd to 8th year. By the 8th they're almost self funded. I agree, this policy is good for your 5' bowling ball case somehow still hanging on.
Glad to see you changed you tagline, it was tasteless. Where else can you get 10%? Have you seen the S&P since 2008?
Dec. 31, 2017 21.83%
Dec. 31, 2016 11.96%
Dec. 31, 2015 1.38%
Dec. 31, 2014 13.69%
Dec. 31, 2013 32.39%
Dec. 31, 2012 16.00%
Dec. 31, 2011 2.11%
Dec. 31, 2010 15.06%
Dec. 31, 2009 26.46%
15,546 posts, you obviously seek out posts simply to be a prick.[/QUOTE]
Look man you simply don't know what you don't know.
If you worked the FE market for any period of time, you would understand that MOST of these clients are very unhealthy. In terms of traditional life insurance, they would either be a decline or have a severe table rating.
Also, you fail to recognize that non FE life products have much higher face amount minimums. Even at a lower price per thousand, the higher face amounts would preclude many of them from being able to afford the minimum.
Here's just one FE case I did last week, and this is not at all uncommon.
Female, 66, non tobacco, she is taking Hydrochlorothiazide, lisinopril, humalog, levothyroxine, and abilify.
I got this lady day one coverage at the lowest price the carrier offers. What could you do for her with a non FE product? I doubt you could place her at all.
Comparing FE to payday loans is beyond dishonest. FE policies are built to absorb heavy risk because the market that demands these products couldn't get coverage otherwise.
Also, you couldn't use a simplified issue product to get these folks covered which means you would have to go fully underwritten. The face amount minimums on fully underwritten products are WAY higher compared to non med products. You may find 1 out of 100 FE clients who could afford the face amount required for fully underwritten products.
Plus, these people do not want exams, so most of them wouldn't do it if you offered.
And in regards to "self insuring", that is not feasible for the FE market. The whole reason they are 50-85 and need insurance to pay for their burial is because they haven't been good with money. If they were, they wouldn't need insurance. Telling them (however unhealthy they are) to simply put money each month in a savings or investment product is like telling a 13 year old to balance a checkbook. Sure they can, but we all know they won't. When they have an insurance policy, it's viewed much differently plus it comes out automatically. Clients could skip a month when it comes to saving money each money, but they know they can't do that with an insurance policy.
Again, you don't know the market, so your comments are baseless and ignorant.
I wouldn't speak on the nuances of the IUL market. I'm intelligent enough to admit my knowledge on these products is lacking. Therefore, I don't attempt to advise people on them as if I were qualified to do so.