More than a half million Americans gain coverage under Biden

[toolbelt]

Again your not listing or reading very well, Subsidizing or charity for a thing does not make it a human right

Something not being a human right does not mean it can't be subsidized or benefit from charity

The truth is the only human right is the air you breath

and listen you're talking to a guy who has been up and down a few time even homeless at one point no heat in a very cold winter

Nothing is a human right

No humans, functioning as part of society, should have no rights to freedom, free speech, or safety? How long have you been against the Constitution anyways?

 

[vic120]

No humans, functioning as part of society, should have no rights to freedom, free speech, or safety? How long have you been against the Constitution anyways?

not talking about should but what is We help people because its the right thing to do, We have programs like Medicaid because it helps society we feed and shelter the poor because its the right thing to do to hold each other up

we protect free speech freedom and safety because our society will thrive

But none of it is a human god given the right

Many people in other countries do not have all of this Why because they live in other countries that have different systems

Heck in some systems people starve there has been cannibalism in NK Russia and some South American countries in recent years

Did those people in other countries not get word on whats a Human right,

If it can be taken away a new budget or change of those in power then,or even a change in the country, its not a human right

It can be an American right but not a human right

 

[sbg_ben]

No, the insurance industry is based on profit.

We sell the mitigating of risk [at a profit]... or put another way we sell a solution to specific catastrophic risks at an aggregate price above projected cumulative loss.

We only earn a commission as long as there is profit.

Frankly, I'd like to keep it that way for the foreseeable future.

Insurance is about profit, not charity. Always has been.

When I sold roofs, we had a saying, "We aren't habitat for humanity."

They have their lane, and we have ours. We can support them, but we operate for profit.

Imagine the p&c forum talking about car insurance as a basic human right...lol.

There are plenty of jobs that receive a salary or compensation of some kind without the business making a profit. It is called a non profit business.. There are plenty of people who make money working for a non profit.

Hell they are still selling insurance in canada, here's a website from a quick google Supplemental Health Insurance Plan | SureHealth

What about all the people who currently work for medicaid/medicare right now dealing with insurance issues and getting paid for it? What about all the programs that get grants and other funding to help deal with signing people up for ACA plans?

Everyone tries to say insurance isn't political and if it wasn't for the profit of these corporations no one could pay us. I think that is some propaganda that has been put out there by corporations. Here's an example of that

I'm just trying to be logical about this. There are literally people making money from non profit insurance jobs right now today.

 

[toolbelt]

Heck in some systems people starve there has been cannibalism in NK Russia and some South American countries in recent years

Would you say the overall quality of life is better or worse in those countries that don't provide basic rights???

 

[vic120]

Would you say the overall quality of life is better or worse in those countries that don't provide basic rights???

What your point what does the quality of life have to do with it

Our quality of life is better than most, Soo what does that have to do with human rights I bet Putin quality of life is better than many too so what does that have to do with the price of tea in china

Doesn't change what is basic human right vrs American right vrs whatever else

You try telling Putin or NK prison guards about your human rights it won't go far

This is not about what's good and bad what's right and wrong

It's not what I want or you want

it is just what is and what is not

 

[toolbelt]

What your point what does the quality of life have to do with it

Our quality of life is better than most, Soo what does that have to do with human rights I bet Putin quality of life is better than many too so what does that have to do with the price of tea in china

Doesn't change what is basic human right vrs American right vrs whatever else

You try telling Putin or NK prison guards about your human rights it won't go far

This is not about what's good and bad what's right and wrong

It's not what I want or you want

it is just what is and what is not

Thank you for recognizing that a society which recognizes basic human rights benefits the entire society as much as it does those receiving them.

 

[Chuckler]

Sadly, the democrats have done nothing whatsoever to lower the actual cost of care. Care has always been accessible, at least during my 50+ years on this planet. Yet, the COST of care is skyrocketing. I got to spend two days in the hospital last month (thought I was having a heart attack, turned out to be much simpler case of arrhythmia). The price tag for 44 hours in the hospital? $47,000, for just the hospital (doesn't include the physician fees). That's not "affordable." Who in hell can "afford" $47,000? Just imagine if it were more serious, like open heart surgery and another week in the place? I went to see three doctors outside of that hospital stay. The cheapest one was $320. For a simple consultation -- no surgery or other procedures, just maybe 10 to 15 minutes of his time. The fees being charged are immoral. Nothing about the "Affordable Care Act" did anything to make the care affordable; in fact, cost of care has gone way up in the 11 years since the law was passed.

Thank the illegals that use our system but don't pay for rising costs...

 

[Chuckler]

If health insurance is a right, and therefore should be made free of cost...since the Second Amendment guarantees my right to bear arms, does that mean I can get my guns for free now since that is a Constitutionally protected right? Asking for...well me.

 

[toolbelt]

Thank the illegals that use our system but don't pay for rising costs...

Or the upper 1% who take advantage of loopholes and don't contribute their fair share.

 

[Chuckler]

Or the upper 1% who take advantage of loopholes and don't contribute their fair share.

you realize the 1% contribute something like 60-70% of all income tax revenues, and 45% of our population basically don't pay taxes...right? I'm not sure how you feel entitled to define what a "fair share" of someone else's money is.