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Is Bob not going to take Ksig up on his offer? I was hoping we'd at least get a response, go ahead and get that no out of the way.
Netquote Leads And Final Expense
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Sorry,
Just checked in. Thought I hit reply on my response earlier this evening before I left the office.
Two quick things. One is the lead might not have not passed the junk filter. If not, I won't disclose why. Two, wrong email address/typo? Send me the name you used & I can track it down.
2) We do survey our customers. LONG response I did earlier but short for now as it is late. I'll check my work computer in the morning as I must not have hit submit after I finished.
Survey shows: Health agents are the worst abusers of auto dialing systems hands down! No other lead type: auto/home/life, is even in the same Country, at least for our lead customers. They are abused by the Health guys! We have a new idea on that we'll be rolling out very shortly. Can't explain as don't want to give our methods away to the competition. Bob V., if you call me I'll explain as I absolutely believe you'll love it
So IMO, Somarco has it right for the health business he is in. Send an email explaining how "it" is going to work & then follow up 2-3 days earlier. I have others that work too that I teach.
Lastly, I don't have time to respond to every little detail! I have a business to run & a "life" outside business. But some things cannot be left without a response.
Like Pangaea said in post # 20.
"LMAO... You're wrong on so many levels here it's actually amusing. Literally."
In regards to this part of ksigmtsu post # 19
"Good way to know if the lead vendor sells to other vendors, ask them if they can send an XML post to your website when you get new leads, if the answer is yes, then they're one of the vendors that sell to each other."
I wonder how we deliver leads to FSC Rater, NORVAX rater & many, many other comparative raters? [darn it's late & I forget all the ones were integrated with] Last I checked they don't take leads via email...Heck, we have some large insurance folks that get leads via XML posts too!
Sorry, I really don't want to get in a pissing match. I was born & raised in the wonderful state of Missouri and some of these more interesting responses remind me of a book I came across in the library when I was in college called: Pissing in the Snow by Vance Randolph. You all ought to look it up as it has some pretty interesting stories. Here's one:
1. Pissing in the Snow
Told by Frank Hembree, Galena, Mo., April, 1945. He heard it in the late 1890's. J.L. Russell, Harrison, Ark., spun me the same yarn in 1950; he says it was told near Green Forest, Ark., about 1885.
One time there was two farmers that lived out on the road to Carico. They was always good friends, and Bill's oldest boy had been a-sparking one of Sam's daughters. Everything was going fine till the morning they met down by the creek, and Sam was pretty goddam mad. "Bill," says he, "from now on I don't want that boy of yours to set foot on my place."
"Why, what's he done?" asked the boy's daddy.
"He pissed in the snow, that's what he done, right in front of my house!"
But surely, there ain't no great harm in that," Bill says.
"No harm!" hollered Sam. "Hell's fire, he pissed so it spelled Lucy's name, right there in the snow!"
"The boy shouldn't have done that," says Bill. "But I don't see nothing so terrible bad about it."
"Well, by God, I do!" yelled Sam. "There was two sets of tracks! And besides, don't you think I know my own daughter's handwriting?"
Good Night all! Remember Missouri is the Show Me State!
Just checked in. Thought I hit reply on my response earlier this evening before I left the office.
Two quick things. One is the lead might not have not passed the junk filter. If not, I won't disclose why. Two, wrong email address/typo? Send me the name you used & I can track it down.
2) We do survey our customers. LONG response I did earlier but short for now as it is late. I'll check my work computer in the morning as I must not have hit submit after I finished.
Survey shows: Health agents are the worst abusers of auto dialing systems hands down! No other lead type: auto/home/life, is even in the same Country, at least for our lead customers. They are abused by the Health guys! We have a new idea on that we'll be rolling out very shortly. Can't explain as don't want to give our methods away to the competition. Bob V., if you call me I'll explain as I absolutely believe you'll love it
So IMO, Somarco has it right for the health business he is in. Send an email explaining how "it" is going to work & then follow up 2-3 days earlier. I have others that work too that I teach.
Lastly, I don't have time to respond to every little detail! I have a business to run & a "life" outside business. But some things cannot be left without a response.
Like Pangaea said in post # 20.
"LMAO... You're wrong on so many levels here it's actually amusing. Literally."
In regards to this part of ksigmtsu post # 19
"Good way to know if the lead vendor sells to other vendors, ask them if they can send an XML post to your website when you get new leads, if the answer is yes, then they're one of the vendors that sell to each other."
I wonder how we deliver leads to FSC Rater, NORVAX rater & many, many other comparative raters? [darn it's late & I forget all the ones were integrated with] Last I checked they don't take leads via email...Heck, we have some large insurance folks that get leads via XML posts too!
Sorry, I really don't want to get in a pissing match. I was born & raised in the wonderful state of Missouri and some of these more interesting responses remind me of a book I came across in the library when I was in college called: Pissing in the Snow by Vance Randolph. You all ought to look it up as it has some pretty interesting stories. Here's one:
1. Pissing in the Snow
Told by Frank Hembree, Galena, Mo., April, 1945. He heard it in the late 1890's. J.L. Russell, Harrison, Ark., spun me the same yarn in 1950; he says it was told near Green Forest, Ark., about 1885.
One time there was two farmers that lived out on the road to Carico. They was always good friends, and Bill's oldest boy had been a-sparking one of Sam's daughters. Everything was going fine till the morning they met down by the creek, and Sam was pretty goddam mad. "Bill," says he, "from now on I don't want that boy of yours to set foot on my place."
"Why, what's he done?" asked the boy's daddy.
"He pissed in the snow, that's what he done, right in front of my house!"
But surely, there ain't no great harm in that," Bill says.
"No harm!" hollered Sam. "Hell's fire, he pissed so it spelled Lucy's name, right there in the snow!"
"The boy shouldn't have done that," says Bill. "But I don't see nothing so terrible bad about it."
"Well, by God, I do!" yelled Sam. "There was two sets of tracks! And besides, don't you think I know my own daughter's handwriting?"
Good Night all! Remember Missouri is the Show Me State!
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No Mark, not necessarily. When I was selling, 20% of my prospects, I did not want to sell.
How about the agents that do not know how easy it is to directly get leads for your territory with a website that has a few top key-worded articles.
To me that is an agent, a survivor, and one rich inside and out.
How about the agents that do not know how easy it is to directly get leads for your territory with a website that has a few top key-worded articles.
To me that is an agent, a survivor, and one rich inside and out.
I put the lead in on NetQuote's website, not HTQ.
I used to be an agent and like everyone else and at some point or another got scammed by the lead companies. I thought I can do a better a job. I started an aged leads business. I saw it as the place to get a great ROI.
Reading the earlier thread spending $100 to close one sale is terrible. On the aged leads side you can average about a 5% close rate. (all this depends on where you get your leads from and how often they are sold) You will need to call more people, but when you spend $100 to close 5 policies that is a great ROI.
I would stay away from NetQoute. They have a bad name and I havent heard of any one that is truly happy with them for an extend period of time.
Reading the earlier thread spending $100 to close one sale is terrible. On the aged leads side you can average about a 5% close rate. (all this depends on where you get your leads from and how often they are sold) You will need to call more people, but when you spend $100 to close 5 policies that is a great ROI.
I would stay away from NetQoute. They have a bad name and I havent heard of any one that is truly happy with them for an extend period of time.
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Ah, but the only people that use XML posts, for the most part, are people that need to maintain a data structure.
If you're just posting the data into a system, http post or get is usually a far easier solution, since XML into a php system requires breaking down the xml into the php variables, and http post/get just accepts a variable.
That's why its a good indicator of if the data is being resold, otherwise there doesn't need to be a strict schema in play that can be passed back out again or stored.
I'm not saying that you can't store it otherwise, but my experience with like 10 vendors was that the ones using xml to post exclusively were the resellers that resold the shared as aged, and sold to each other.
It's not 100% accurate, of course, but I wouldn't build an xml parser or post system unless someone forced me to because its a pain compared to other methods.
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But you have to factor in the TIME you invested going through so many extra "no's". Did it take you 3 weeks to close those 5 sales? Or did you close the 5 sales in 2 days? The key is how much PROFIT did you make per hour, per 40 hours, etc.
i did not get in to the detail of what i think are the best ways to work age leads, a predictive dialer would help you cut down on the time spent working the leads.
One of the earlier posts mentioned they spent $125 to close one lead from net quote. At $3 a lead they worked about 40 leads. With realtime shared leads you need to be johnny on the spot, with aged leads you can call at your leisure. 40 leads would be about $45, if you close 2 or even 1, you are still ahead of the game and worked the same amount of time.
One of the earlier posts mentioned they spent $125 to close one lead from net quote. At $3 a lead they worked about 40 leads. With realtime shared leads you need to be johnny on the spot, with aged leads you can call at your leisure. 40 leads would be about $45, if you close 2 or even 1, you are still ahead of the game and worked the same amount of time.
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