Perfect Example Of Why You Should Door Knock Your Leads

[NSRH]

Just because it would be miserable to you does not mean it is miserable to everyone else..

God bless the person who enjoys calling people out of the blue and trying to convince them they need to buy some insurance.

Seriously, God bless them.

It's one of the hardest jobs I can think of.

 

[rousemark]

God bless the person who enjoys calling people out of the blue and trying to convince them they need to buy some insurance.

Seriously, God bless them.

It's one of the hardest jobs I can think of.

No harder than calling them on the phone and getting their personal information.. Personally I enjoy talking with people F@F but hate using the phone.. To each his/her own..

 

[goillini52]

No harder than calling them on the phone and getting their personal information.. Personally I enjoy talking with people F@F but hate using the phone.. To each his/her own..

Maybe Ramiz has a "radio face".

 

[Tahoe Ray]

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Telesales can be super dangerous too...

 

[HoosierLife]

1. If you're only working leads, then I guess it's a problem, because you traveled all that way... just for that one lead.
2. Whenever I see a "Ring" doorbell, I always make sure that I can be seen, that I am absolutely respectful of their property (no 'fiddling' with the door handles or messing with packages, etc.).
3. With a video door bell, I'm asking if I can shake their hand and introduce myself... "but that's up to you." (You can't shake hands through a camera).

Yes, I've had a couple of people come to the door! I've also had some tell me that they were on vacation in Las Vegas, so they aren't there to greet me! (It's funny what they'll tell me!) I had one tell me that they were at work and just can't come to the door.

What this tells me, is that they see me as a trusting person and they believe that it's SAFE to tell me WHY they aren't there. While I'm not making introductions, I'll take that as a good sign anyway. I'm making the quality impressions that I want to make and I appear as a professional person worthy of trust.

Just my thoughts.

To be honest, I never knocked many doors. But if I were to door knock one now with a Ring door bell, I would pretend I didn't hear a thing. I definitely wouldn't ring the bell.

I was always a fan of buying 30-40 leads a week and having my setter fill my calendar so I didn't have to knock doors if I didn't want to.

Now I let technology do the same thing for my appointments.

Try giving me a call if you're not one of my agents. 99 times out of 100 you're going to get a text back with my calendar link.

Automation, integration and artificial intelligence are here to stay. If you don't speak that language and know how to successfully harness that technology, you will quickly become unemployed in the not to distant future, insurance agents included.

There are very few @DayTimer's left. Hard work will overcome most things.

 

[DayTimer]

thanks.
What about remote positions, do you offer that?

This is the FE forum for crying out loud - we stay on topic here!

 

[KRobby]

No, I'm saying you're not in business unless you have someone on staff. You're self employed.

Sole Proprietorship is not a type of business structure?

 

[Tahoe Ray]

I look at it as more of a partnership.

Why do some businesses bring on partners?

The same reason why you might want to consider giving up some equity in your contract percentage.

At the end of the day, it's about making more sales which equals more money.

If you think you can make more sales setting your own appointments, door knocking your own leads, servicing your own customers, and doing it all alone, you'll never be a business owner.

The self employed person owns a JOB.

The person who hires staff... that's the business owner.

Either you have your own payroll, or you take a cut in comp for someone else carry that burden... but that's what running a business looks like.

Having staff that prequalify leads, answer your phone for you, prequalify leads, set appointments, take care of your applications and follow up on pending business.

^^If you're doing all that, AND driving to appointments you're spending most of your time not selling.

That's not being a business owner.

I agree with your general point but you're really dismissing a huge portion of self-employed people as not running businesses.

I know several producers that are solo and make a great living, never worrying where their next dollar is coming from. I promise you that they don't feel "unemployed" in the morning. The wake-up and do what they love and that happens to create a great income.

Most of those people certainly feel like business owners (and are). Try telling this guy that he doesn't run a business: He Left The World of Traditional Employment And Built a Million-Dollar, One-Person Business

Read the stats on non-employer entrepreneurs making over 1m/yr.

However, and maybe it's not the case with FE, when you give up some comp (read as not having NMO/BGA contracts...which no individual producer gets anyway) you get the case managers, contracting people and the case design/internal wholesaling of your upline.

That's your team. They do most of what an employee would do anyway.

 

[Newby]

One thing is for sure. Ramiz can come up with some major Bull sheet to try to justify contracting agents at 60% with 1% renewals. I know agents will willingly do that. But they ain't REAL business owners. Those are employees. And they are fine if that's what they want to do. Might beat digging ditches or roofing houses.

But guys who work for themselves make their own rules, make their own money and set their own schedule are definitely business owners. And they are definitely thriving in the FE arena. FexContracting is full of success stories with face to face agents who make great money and live a great lifestyle. And Digital BGA is full of guys doing the same in phone sales. And most of those guys have ZERO employees and want ZERO employees.

I guess time will tell. If a huge number of Ramiz's telemarketers end up retiring very wealthy then I will gladly accept that I'm wrong. But I have my my suspicions that only one person and a small chosen few is going to end up with the wealth in that agency. No crime in that as I know there is a long line of people that will gladly take any meager crumbs to not have to buy leads or have any business expenses.

As they say in the car business...there's an ass for every seat.

 

[juicy]

This is the FE forum for crying out loud - we stay on topic here!

watch yourself old man...
I'm kidding. If your comment was sarcasm it went completely over my head. I've been in sales but am looking into becoming an agent again. So I'm not sure what you meant. I was asking him if he allowed his people to work the phone from home instead of coming into his office. I've considered calling him for awhile now- I've seen his ads for job positions and I'm in St Louis. I actually assumed since he's always looking for people, that the turnover rate must be huge. But maybe that's not the case? Again, I'm not experienced with FE/ insurance. I've been in real estate/debt niches. Maybe he really does have more leads than he can handle so he just needs more agents to work them.

I've also read a lot of your posts and have picked up some great tips you've shared.