Realtors - Mortgage Brokers ?

I own a real estate brokerage, have 6 agents that work for me, so I may have a unique perspective to add to this...or you may already know it.

I will say that I do not actively engage buyers and sellers anymore and have not for a few years. I focus now primarily on my consulting company and my only real involvement with my brokerage is generating leads for my agents.

When I was in the business regularly working with clients (from about 2003-2007), I averaged 7-10 deals per month with one licensed assistant. The average sales price in my area at the time was around $140k and a homeowner's policy was around $2500-$3500 depending on zone due to high wind policies (I live on the MS Coast where named storms hit every few years). Because of the volume I did, I regularly was pursued by mortgage professionals asking for a chance to get on my lenders list.

When I say "regularly pursued", I mean that it was common to receive 2-3 calls per month from new loan officers both from independent, new originators to local banks, etc. They went out of their way to get my attention, asking me to lunch, offering to teach classes on things I needed, asking me if I wanted to attend CE events they were putting on at their offices, and the list goes on.

I rarely got approached by P&C agents. In fact, I could probably count on my fingers and toes how many insurance agents that pursued my referral business over the years; it was almost nonexistent. I always like to offer 3 choices to clients for insurance, mortgages, home inspections, etc. For the first 2 years in the business, I had only 2 insurance agents I recommended because I had never talked to any others. The 3rd recommendation on my list just happened to be an agent that another real estate agent recommended to me. I put them on my list, referred business to them (probably around 10 deals over the course of a year) and never even talked to this agent, never received a thank you for the referrals - nothing.

Now, as a broker who really does not participate in the day to day other than generating leads and managing the agents, I still get many calls from loan originators, but almost none from insurance agents. This is one of the reasons I am considering getting a P&C license. My team consists of 6 agents that all do at least 4 deals per month and our recommended insurance agents list has not changed in 3 years - and I have not talked to 2 of those agents in over 6 months.

In my market, there are about 30 real estate agents (out of about 1100 or so last I checked) that account for more than 85% of all the home sales across 3 counties. You can go after the agents individually, or find the brokers of those agents, and work on that relationship. If I had more than one insurance agent that actively worked at continuing our business relationship, I would never consider getting a P&C license. But I see there is a lot of opportunity in my market because there are not agents actively pursuing this business or business relationships.

So, the TL;DR version:
Find the real estate agents that are producing in your market. Ask them to lunch, show them your services and what you can do to make their lives easier. Show them you care about their business and making sure their deals close on time. Offer training to them/their agents, bring food, etc.
You may not get all their business right away, but cultivating that relationship will get you on their radar, perhaps their list, and eventually give you the ability to prove yourself. I can't see any harm in pursuing those relationships. I probably would not waste my time running after everyone with a real estate license, but definitely see value in pursuing those in the top 10% or so.
 
I actually do all the quoting myself from the road. I usually do my quotes from 10 PM to 2 AM and travel during the day.
 
I actually do all the quoting myself from the road. I usually do my quotes from 10 PM to 2 AM and travel during the day.
Hey- I was up doing that at 2 last night. Just hit quote number 32 for the week... I honestly would like to cut that down :) Submitted 2 life & bound 6 home, 4 flood, 2 auto. I could have cut this in 1/2 and been happy :) & slept more.

Don't forget all the damn flood issues, questions, and normal customer service crap.
 
Hey- I was up doing that at 2 last night. Just hit quote number 32 for the week... I honestly would like to cut that down :) Submitted 2 life & bound 6 home, 4 flood, 2 auto. I could have cut this in 1/2 and been happy :) & slept more.

Don't forget all the damn flood issues, questions, and normal customer service crap.

Wow....a reg. super Man. How do you do it?
 
I have a dozen realtors and a half dozen mortgage brokers sending me referrals. Here is what I am doing to get in front of realtors... The 4/1 FEMA changes have a huge affect in my area. I recently did a fema webinar on those changes. I took what I learned and put it in a power point presentation. I will be doing mini seminars at local real estate agencies. Most agencies have weekly meetings where all agents are required to attend. They love people to come in and make on topic presentations. Put on a great show. Show them how you can make their sale go easier. I provide "sample" home and flood quotes for all of their listings. They pass these on to prospective buyers. They call me every time they get a new listing. I end up selling a great percentage of these. Then of course add other lines. Think outside of the box.

I have also showed up at open houses with sample quotes. Bring flowers and coffee.
 
Learn the grandfather laws of FEMA and you will sell even more. Instead of a 3k premium it could be 300.
 
Be selective who you approach to try to work with. Remember the 80/20 rule? With Realtors it's more like 97/3 ! You'll get more for your $ working with lenders.
 
I have a dozen realtors and a half dozen mortgage brokers sending me referrals. Here is what I am doing to get in front of realtors... The 4/1 FEMA changes have a huge affect in my area. I recently did a fema webinar on those changes. I took what I learned and put it in a power point presentation. I will be doing mini seminars at local real estate agencies. Most agencies have weekly meetings where all agents are required to attend. They love people to come in and make on topic presentations. Put on a great show. Show them how you can make their sale go easier. I provide "sample" home and flood quotes for all of their listings. They pass these on to prospective buyers. They call me every time they get a new listing. I end up selling a great percentage of these. Then of course add other lines. Think outside of the box.

I have also showed up at open houses with sample quotes. Bring flowers and coffee.

I've heard of doing sample quotes on listings - just curious, since carrier rates can vary so widely based on credit, education, etc. what do you use to fill in these quotes? Especially since a credit no-hit can really send the quote awry.
 
I've heard of doing sample quotes on listings - just curious, since carrier rates can vary so widely based on credit, education, etc. what do you use to fill in these quotes? Especially since a credit no-hit can really send the quote awry.

That's the issue. Since credit scoring has become such a determining factor you will have some final quotes that are higher. Don't forget claims history too. Tell your Realtor partner to email you as soon as they have an interested buyer. Run the quote with the buyers data and send it right back to the Realtor. The sooner you get final rate in front of them the better.
 
There is no value in trying to provide a 'quote' for a house they haven't bought yet. There are a couple of things you can do though....

First, understand that anyone who buys a house probably has at least okay credit. While I fully understand an insurance score and credit are only loosely related, its a reasonable assumption, that if they are financing a house, you are not dealing with someone in foreclosure, lots of claims, etc. Its okay to mock rate at a upper tier.

At the same time, you want to drive a discussion, at this point, not a closed sale. A premium range will get you the same results as a fixed number. By using a range you can add in comments about:
Final premium will be determined by a number of underwriting factors, such as discounts you are eligible for, such as auto/home, education / occupation, credit, etc. The premium provided is for general purposes only. Please call for a free, no obligation quote that is customized to your needs

The truth is, the realtor will drive it, but you also want to have this available for them to pick up so when they are at the next house, they still have your name and number and an open invitation to call you.

Dan
 
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